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Volume vs Intensity Debate

Posted by Gale Bernhardt on Jan 4, 2008 8:50:21 AM

 

I'm not sure what is bringing the volume vs intensity debates to the surface right now, but I'm getting lots of questions about what is more valuable, increasing training volume or intensity?

 

 

The answer depends on your current fitness and goals.

 

 

1) If you don't have the endurance to complete an event, then first you need endurance (volume). Heading into very intense workouts without a fitness base increases your risk for injury.

 

 

2) If you already have an endurance base, then whether you add more volume or intensity depends on what you are currently doing and your race goals. Let's consider extremes because the issue is easier to see. If you are currently training 10 hours per week, with your longest workout at three hours and your goal event is two-hours long then strategically adding more intensity will likely bring better results for you than adding more volume. If your goal event is 12-hours long then more volume, particularly focused in your long workouts will do you more good than more intensity.

 

 

To say intensity is better than volume (or vice versa) in all circumstances is like saying a table saw is always a better tool than a nail gun when you're building something big. Or, a table saw is the only tool to use when building something big. Makes no sense.

 

 

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Jan 10, 2008 6:49 AM Guest Bill Levey  says:

OK, I understand what you are saying, but what about for the "average cyclist" who is interested in improving general performance and stamina on the bike?  Take ME for instance, I'm 58 and have been riding fairly regularly for about five or six years now (OK, a lot less in this cold weather).  I am now doing most of my training indoors on a trainer and rollers.  I hope to participate in a MS Bike Ride in early June that will involve a century (my first) and a 50 miler the next day.  What would the the optimal mix of long (boooorrriiinnnnggg) steady rides on the trainer and high intensity sprint training?  I know a little about periodisation and will sit down soon to work up a plan (any help here would alos be nice).

 

Bill

Jan 10, 2008 7:04 AM Gale Bernhardt Gale Bernhardt    says in response to Bill Levey:

Bill ~

 

Let me know what you're doing now each day of the week. So something like;

Day - exercise - intensity - how it felt (easy, medium, hard)

 

Monday - strength train 45 min - light weights 2-3 sets x 12 reps, easy

Tues - Ride spin class 50 minutes - high intensity, hard

Etc.

 

Also let me know how long you think it will take you (ride time only, no aid station stops included) to ride the century.

 

We'll go from there

Jan 10, 2008 11:09 AM Guest Rick C.  says:

Hi Gail,

 

I ride in sunny Florida, so I train year-round and I do have a nice endurance base to work off of, but not much time to train.  Therefore, to prepare for a race I do a lot of intensity training and I must disagree with your statement that for long events you need to do long training rides.  I've proven in my own training that you can build aerobic base w/o long rides only using intensity. 

 

For example, last year I did the a 155 mile race with only 50-60 mile long training rides on the weekends and placed 20th overall in 7 hrs with an avg speed just over 21 mph.  I focused on short high intensity workouts and tried to do 2 to 3 of them per week and had great results and actually did better than all my teammates who did the long 100+ mile rides w/o the intensity training.

 

Thanks,

Rick K.

Jan 10, 2008 7:02 PM Guest Dr G  says in response to Bill Levey:

First, long rides don't have to be boring. You can spice them up in alot of way - attacking every hill, doing a burst every so many minutes or miles, etc. Second, one of the main reasons to do longer events is to learn to control your mind. If you are riding along and are bored, the odds are it is your head, not the workout that is the issue.  Third, longer rides build self control, pace and effort judgement. My specialty is long aquabikes and tris (1/2 Ironman and over) and most triathlons who train on a diet of 1-2 hour rides go out too fast and then die. If you want to do well in longer races, you need 4-7 hour rides. If you are bored, then attack that boredom as a psychological problem, a sign of a mind that is in the wrong place during rides.

Jan 11, 2008 6:01 AM Guest Rick C.  says in response to Dr G:

Dr. G, you're probably right about the boredom folks experience.  I hear it all the time from folks, but I've never had a problem with it, but then again I don't do 7 hour training rides;)  For me training is short and hard and I do Century+ races with the other guys who do the long rides and can easily keep up with them all day no matter how fast I go out.  It's totally against all old training advise and it's kinda outta the box thinking, but you should try it cuz it works.

Rick C.

Jan 11, 2008 7:13 AM Gale Bernhardt Gale Bernhardt    says in response to Rick C.:
Rick ~



Looks like you have a long history of cycling - yes? A few questions before I give a more complete answer:



    • How many years have you been a cyclist?

    • How many hours per week do you train? (Include strength, cycling, yoga, crosstraining)

    • What does your typical weekend look like? (How many hours per day and typical intensity each day)



Gale
Feb 10, 2008 10:40 AM Guest Brad Bowen  says:

Gale - Is there a combination of volume and intensity training that makes sense while you are building up to your event distance?  I am running in a 15k race in 25 days.  I was sick recently and was set back in my training 17days. I feel like I need both training methods to reach the time or goal I set for the race in December.  Thanks Brad

Feb 12, 2008 8:47 AM Gale Bernhardt Gale Bernhardt    says in response to Brad Bowen:

Hey Brad ~

 

Trying to make up time after a set back of nearly three weeks is really tough. One way to go is do one long run on the weekends so you get the volume needed for the event - key workout number one. Make your second key workout a lactate threshold workout. You don't need a lot of accumulated time at threshold, around 20 minutes is good. Break it up so you can indeed run fast - so something like 5 x 4 minutes at 10K pace or threshold heart rate with 1-minute recovery intervals. This workout only need be 45-60 minutes long.

 

Be sure you taper (cut overall training volume, while keeping some 10K pace work included) 10-14 days before the event and let me know how it goes. Plan to run the event, of course, slower than your 10K pace work.

Feb 14, 2008 8:13 AM Guest Chris  says in response to Gale Bernhardt:

Volume Vs Intensity

Especially with regard to periodisation, I think this question tightly pivots around weekly training time.  8, perhaps 10, hours at a bare minimum are what I would consider weekly ride times that may make riding around at 16mph, when you are capable of 20+, a way to start a season, NEVER going past lactate threshold at least for a few weeks. 

 

You wrote: "..the judicious use of high-intensity workouts during the offseason will most likely not damage or ruin your fitness. "

 

Well, damaging your fitness comes with orthodox base training.  It's actually part of the point of it to begin with.  The degree to which you keep your fitness up restricts your ability to adapt to a higher peak latter on.  For a moment, it sounded like you consider the above to be the holy grail and I am not sure you meant it that way.

 

I'm a cycling racer who has been training, with watts, for going on four years.  Another unexpected characteristic I discovered was how strength and fitness can, and do, follow distinctly seperate trajectories over a season.  IMO, you can't stack a maintainance program with sprint, to TT, preparation all year and get the same results you would if you base train and resistence train (weights, slow hills) and then move on to higher stress endurance and VO2 workouts closer to when you want to peak.  Its sort of like burning the candle at both ends (LSD and intervals <30seconds), before adopting a regular cycling calendar.

Feb 14, 2008 10:51 AM Gale Bernhardt Gale Bernhardt    says in response to Chris:

Hey Chris ~

 

Thanks for letting me know what I wrote is a little confusing. I agree with you, in that you cannot do everything all at once. That said, there are many different approaches to "periodization". Too many endurance athletes think periodization means first build volume at Zone 1 to 2 intensity, then threshold, then anaerobic threshold, then sprinting. That is indeed one model, but not the only model.

 

I've coached many, many road racers and mountain bike racers that do not return to ONLY Zone 1, 2 intensity in the off season and they continue to turn in PR performances. The trick is finding the right blend for the athlete, their experience, lifestyle and goals.

 

Below is a link to a column that talks a bit about different models. http://coaching.usolympicteam.com/archives