So, what other sports don't have close communications with the "players"? US Football? Basketball? Baseball - the coach comes onto the field. Should we have time-outs so the sportif can talk strategy w/ his people? How about quarters, periods, innings, and halftimes? Come on! The Director Sportif is part of the team - the strategist, the spotter, etc. Let it be...
Without radios, what is to stop the fans from calling out the time gaps as the riders pass? This would be simple for any spectator to do, at least when reporting to the chase groups.
For the lead groups, two or more fans could communicate from different parts of the course and call out the time gaps to the escapees as well. Even this sort of organization might not be necessary, if a spectator has a web-enabled phone and can get live updates at any point of the course. In that case, a single spectator could call out any time gap to any rider.
To me it seems possible, if not probable, that this would happen. So, then, what's the difference if radios are banned?
The best part of radio communication is the possibility of weaker teams to win through superior strategy and wise use of available skills. Last I checked, the Tour was a team sport; how can there be a team without communication? the coach communicates in football, baseball, and any other sport which comes to mind with their players so why not on the Tour? Is it because the French want to affect one sport? Seriously, there's far more to be gained by better communication then would be lost by forbidding anything but a chalkboard.
Right, Bikeguy! And what TEAM sport has competitors miles apart and out of sight of each other?! As long as each time has access to the same coaching/strategy tools, it's "sixes" for fairness and allows for the "brain" side of the sport. The strategies of the teams make the races "funner."
..er, excuse the typo. As long as each TEAM has access....
This is not baseball, football, basketball. You can't just say because they do it this way in other sports that it should be this way in cycling. Keep cycling what makes it so attractive, a romantic sport steeped in tradition. Hard men relying on their guts and wits to beat other hard men. Anything that detracts from that I say - pass.
I still remember coaching peewee soccer the year the other team showed up with two coaches, and they were wearing headsets. While they staked out both sidelines, I walked over and explained the rules. You can have one coach, you can only be on one side of the field, and at that, you can only walk between the 30 and 50 yard lines. And, in no way shape or form, can you use radios. Leave to it someone to mess up a nice kids' game with technology.
That being said, the tour is no kids' game and with cell phones able to access the time gaps and gps positions so nicely placed on the tour's own web site, it would turn into a cloak and dagger game while riders try to get the time gaps from the sidelines, not a bike race. It's dangerous enough as it is.
Having a radio blasting in your ear won't make the pedals go around any faster after all. So let them talk.
In team sports the coach tells and athlete(except time outs) and he then communicates that to the other members of the team. They then have to execuite the play or excetera individually as a team. In the Tour the coach (?) continues to monitor all physical actions each moment as they are done. I like the idea One athlete receives shares the info and then they do as they were trained to do. Time gaps are shared all the time from the motorcycles anyway. Listening to announcers indicate what is going is making the outcome as a group predictable. Food For Thought!!!!!!
Luddite and others, I just love it when you talk "romantic" about pro cycling. Can you say it in French? Ooh, la la! ![]()
in the states we are not allowed to wear headsets on organized rides.im talking am fm radio or i pod s or any thing that distracts you i dont necessarially think the pro riders are distracted by their communique from their team managers.after all if you can reach down and zip the front of your jersey at 65mph or stretch your leg around your seat like i saw today you can do anything. leave it to the teams to decide how they want to communicate. see you at hotel chene vert on the 24th
How are you communicating with us Ronan? You're using the Internet and computer, should these be disallowed? Or should we go back in time to the early 70's when I was programming computers using Fortran and punchcards? Would Active be paying you without using the technilogical advances of the intervening years? I ride without a computer or GPS because that is my choice as I feel after nearly 50 years of competing competively if I don't know how I feel the technology is not going to make me go faster or ride/run smarter.
So how does this radio thing evolve assuming it is allowed to continue? Here's my prediction. Teams begin adding professional motivational coaches who speak to the riders during the race. Perhaps even capable of inducing pre-learned trance like states in the riders where the mind shuts off the pain. Some of these "coaches" may take on Svengali like reputations with the best ones sought after and paid handsome sums to work their mind magic. Sound far fetched - it is probably already happening to some extent.
Fortran 4 and punch cards, I remember them, but not fondly.
Funner? Really?