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Protein in my Fuel

Posted by Steve Carton on Sep 26, 2008 11:16:03 AM

A few months ago, after reading a bunch of stuff from Hammer Nutrition on the subject of protein cannabilization and long runs, I started trying their "Sustained Energy" product which has some protein mixed in with the carbs. This stuff is kind of a pain for me to use - I do my runs after work in the evenings and the mixed form of this stuff starts going bad after a few hours. So I fill a couple of dry gel bottles with the powder and leave it sit all day. Then, just before heading out to run, I add water and shake well. I played with this for 4-5 long runs, I think plenty to see how it works out.

 

Well, I have to say, I'm going to stop using it.  Nothing against Hammer. And I'm sure this works well for manypeople, just not so well for me. First, I'd prefer to simply carry a gel packet than a belt and bottles, especially during a race. The belts wear on me after a while. Second, I just don't like the flavor of the mix. It's not bad, but it sure doesn't inspire me! Third, and this is the real issue, I think they leave me constipated for several days after a long run. The gels just don't do that too me.

 

 

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Sep 28, 2008 2:19 PM DCtoPgh DCtoPgh    says:

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I'm coming up on marathon #2 and I keep learning a lot (thankfully mostly from others and not much on my own the hard way!)... I haven't tried the protein and carb mixture, but as a scientist I can appreciate the theory behind it. However, theory and function need to intersect for something to work well. One thing that has worked phenomenally well for me are Succeed electrolyte caps (recommended to me by someone who has run 5 100-milers and every Marine Corps marathon)... and no, I don't have any affiliation with them (unless they want to sponsor a mid-packer!), I just think it's a good product. Good luck on your continued training

Sep 28, 2008 6:48 PM Steve Carton Steve Carton    says in response to DCtoPgh:

You're welcome. I started writing mostly as a way of consolidating my experiences and then cementing them in my fairly weak brain. But I also enjoy just writing.



As I understand it, and this is a very "lay" understanding, there are two competing thoughts on the physiology fuel and of long distances. I

think

the experts agree that after a period of time (a couple of hours, varying on one's individuality?) the body begins to metabolize proteins (as well as carbs and maybe fats too). One school of thought seems to be "ingest more carbs to curb the body's need for this". The other is "this is an unavoidable process, so feed the body some easy-to-digest proteins so the body will digest them instead of my muscle tissue." I tend to believe the latter. But not for any real reason except that after a long run when I use protein-enhanced fuels, I never feel or smell ammonia, which is the byproduct of amino-acid consumption? But I can't say that I've observed any lower energy or increased muscle exhaustion that I can directly attribute to fuel. And the occasions when I've "felt" amonia are very rare and at least partly attributable to other factors, like no other food before running. I have good runs and bad runs, irrespective of the fuel I use. So the annoyance factors became the overriding determinant.


As an aside, I also use Succeed electrolyte caps (one per hour, more in warmer conditions). They are terrific. I think my favorite late-run fuel though are orange sllices. They're a perfect combination of taste and fuel, and a terrific late-run psych boost. I stopped at the 26 mile water-stop in the B&A marathon, badly fatigued, had some orange slices, and literally sprinted to the finish.