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Some things are somewhat predictable. One of them is that if I don't get enough miles in, I'll do poorly when I run a marathon. Winner takes all. And I had a tough day.

 

Over the summer and into the fall, I was plagued by various ailments and these kept me from getting the training done. By the time we headed to Harrisburg, I had managed only a couple of LLSDs (18+ miles) and they were ugly. So I got there with very low expectations. And I wasn't disappointed :-)

 

I drove from Annapolis to Harrisburg with another runner/sailing friend and we did the usual packet pickup deal.  There was no expo that I could see and that was probably a good thing - saved me a few bucks. Then we went out and drove the course, tryng to get a feel for the lay of the land, so to speak. And it looked good - a few hills, but nothing to write home about. We couldn't drive back into the lakewood area because it's all park trails, but from the road, it didn't look too rough. So back to the hotel, met up with my regular RB and his wife, dinner and hit they sack by about 10pm.

 

Sunday morning, up and dressed about 7. 8:30 start is late which was kind of nice - I wasn't the groggy-eyed slob I usually am on race mornings.  Got a bagel and banana at the Hampton Inn buffet and then headed over to the starting area. Question of the morning was "how do I dress"? It was chilly, but no wind to speak of. So I opted for my race-ready shorts, a green T (from the 07 B&A marathon, my first - and more on that later!), and a running vest. Parking was easy and we had time to queue up at the porta-pot for some last-minute.weight-loss. I put gels, electrolyte caps, my mini-first-aid kit and my camera in my pockets and then wandered around taking pictures and staying warm. Hooked up with Spencer and wandered up to the starting area on the bridge.

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There were a lot of folks at the starting area - more than I expected! Last I had looked at the registrations, there were only a few hundred runners, but the starting area was pretty filled up! The picture shows that we were all a bit conflivted about clothes - it was chilly prior to the start - the car thermo read 37 degrees.

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Soon enough, the starting gun fired and we were off, turtles that we are. Spencer was hoping to get his time under 4:39:13 and since I didn't expect to do particularly well, I planned to help him keep the pace through the early miles and we would do our own thing whenever that happened. The start took us over the market street bridge and into the south-east area of Harrisburg. Old industry and houses in want of TLC, mostly flat. We saw these signs all over the place that there were runners ahead of us, but being tutles, that's always a given!

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Then a nice return to the waterfront of the Susquehanna river via a railroad park trail. Great running, warmed up and moving well. Starting to get warm.

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Coming back into the river area was just beautiful! It was so pretty running along there, with parks and the river and the fall foliage. It was just fantastic. One of the prettier 'thons I've run.

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The houses were all old victorians, many keptbeautifully, others in need of repair. The day was definately warming up! We were warned by the race management at a couple of points to drink lots - that the day was going to be a warm one. Spencer changed his short (nice to have spectator support!) to a light-white one. We ran along the waterfront for quite a ways, finally turning off toward the lake park area. At first, this was still residential, and then we turned out towards the industrial section. Not so pretty, though not too long either so it was easy to just ignore and keep running. Shortly after, we came to the Harrisburg community college campus and things got nice again. Well, except for me! I started to seriously fade. I crossed the 15 mile mark and had to stop and walk for a while.I walked to about Mile 16 and then shuffled along until in the park area. Now that's a very pretty running area.

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But I was seriously tired. I was trying to continue a run-walk but it was more of a run/shuffle. And it was getting warmer. Oh - and it turns out, there are real hills in that park! One long and quite steep one leading up to mile 18 - and I just walked it. But as I was heading p that hill, I heard my name and saw Ed Peters, a 50-stater whom I met a year earlier at the Rehoboth marathon coming back down towards me! What a surprise to see him again.

 

After that monster hill, we were rolling up and down hills that would have seemeed normal and okay if I was doing better, but I wasn't going to push - I knew I wasn't going to finish well, so I decided to just enjoy the scenery and the other runners around me and chat and push forward, walking whenever I felt the need.

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The above doesn't quite convey they steepness of the hills!

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We finally had to leave the park. As you can see from the clock, I was waaaay off pace - I'm usually able to get to this point in under 3:30. But not this day. So we headed out and back to the riverfront, staying in the very pretty scenery, which was getting harder to see. I ran for a few miles with Lou, (in the picture above) - a very nice gentleman.

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From, there on to the end was numbing, but flat. Until the very end, when we had to ascend up onto the railroad bridge and cross that to the finish area.

 

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At the very end, I was neck-and-neck with another runner to the gate. A fun way to sprint into the finish, even though we were all suffering out on the course! At the finish area, I met up with Bruce, Spencer and Ed Peters to drink and eat some and chat about the course.  None of us did as well as we'd hoped though perhaps Spencer had the biggest disappointment of us all - he missed a PR by about 30 seconds. Bruce was about 30 minutes off (at around 4:30) and I had a dismal 5:13 (second worst time ever for me). But, I now have 9 in the books.

 

Below are a couple of shots taken by my RB's wife - my neck-and-neck sprint to the finish, and Spence, Bruce, Me and Ed Peters after finishing.

 

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I liked this marathon a lot even though I did very poorly. It seemed very well run. Also, it seemed like the the race officials added more water stops in the last miles that weren't there when were heading out - I'm guessing they knew it was getting hot out. And that was both very welcome and very smart on their part.  It also seemed like there were lots of volunteers on the course - more than on any other I can remember running. And, the crowd support was better than I expected for a small marathon - there were folks cheering us on, even late in the race in most of the neighborhoods. It was great.

 

In retrospect, I got bitten by three things. I didn't get enough miles, and especially enough hills in before the race. I was surprised by the challenge of the hills. And it was warmer than I was ready for. After the finish, we read 74 degrees on the car thrmometer. That's pretty warm for a marathon, especially in bright sun. I was hot for the entire second half, and perhaps dehydrated too (though I made a point of drinking a lot). I'm guessing that my green T was too warm - should have opted for a white one (which I had in my bag, but didn't wear). Looking back, my two hardest marathons were run in that same green T - maybe I should retire it :-)

 

But, no complaints - and a special thanks to the race volunteers and the town of Harrisburg for hosting this great event. Thanks also to my running partner Spencer who puts up with my inconsistent training patterns. And especially to my wife for not only putting up with, but encouraging my foibles.

 

On to number 10!

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So, last night I finally had a good LSD -- 16 miles mind you - not the long LSD I needed to get before Harrisburg (which is 9 days away). But, being only 9 days away, I'm supposed to be tapering, not running distances, so this was a compromise. But I needed the psychological lift. Way down in my mind about how porrly prepared I am for this 'thon. So this week, I've put in about 30 miles and will get some more before the weekend is over. Hydration and fuel seem to be working again. But I'll definately be relying on the large base of miles and marathons I've build over the past 30 months for this one.

 

After this, a couple weeks recovery and then start training for spring.

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I'm hurting today

Posted by Steve Carton Sep 11, 2008

Yesterday evening my RB and I completed our first 22+ in preparation for Baltimore. We'll be doing one more next week and then start our taper towards the 10/11marathon. http://www.mapmyrun.com/route/us/dc/washington/457409879

 

The run last evening was fantastic. Temps in the mid-70s and resonable humidity. We ran slowly, though pushing a little throughout. I hurt today, but not from anything be the effort. So I'm pleased with where we are.

 

 

 

Hills Monday.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Actually, a little less. And reducing that by 3 weeks for the taper means we have 4 heavy training weeks to go. At this point we're up to 18 miles on the long runs and 6x800s for intervals. I'm still hoping to get as far as 10x800s before the marathon, but it doesn't seem likely. I am comfortable that we'll get a couple of 22-milers in. This week is 18, then 20, then 22. One thing I have to add in is more hill work -- Baltimore is hilly in the latter half. I'm planning to do some strong hills in place of some of the intervals runs in the next few weeks so as to prep for them. 

 

 

I'm getting comfortable with my hydration and fuel plan too, though the jury is still out on protein in the fuel. I think it's a good thing and will probably keep it in -- I've been doing my long runs with the Hammer "Sustained Energy" for a while now and it doesn't bother me much, except it means wearing a belt for the marathon and I would prefer not to. So I should look for a prepackaged gel that has some protein in it. Or suck it up and wear the belt (I'm such a whiner). But, I'm feeling good -- like I should at this point. 

 

 

 

 

 

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How could I have forgotten this! I started my long run yesterday and totally forgot to apply body-glide to my inner legs. We were heading out for an 18 mile run with some good hill work. I got to around mile 10 and had such bad chafing that I was starting to run bow-legged. In another couple of miles, my hips started to hurt, and my knees!  Ended up walking the last mile. It was awful!

 

 

 

 

 

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The Forced Taper

Posted by Steve Carton Feb 19, 2008

 

Less than two weeks to the B&A marathon. Definately in taper mode. I took the past week off to let my knee heal a bit and then ran a short 5 miles last Saturday. It was an okay run, though I felt a bit leaden. Too much time off? Not sure. But my knee felt fine while I was running. I had planned to run 12 or so, but I got to about 5 and mother nature intervened. So I plodded on home to use the facilities and never made it back out the door again

 

 

But later that evening, my knee (outside, over the top of the cap) was very tender. I was quite worried, but by today (Tuesday) it feels fine again. So, I'm trying to decide if I should run at all during the rest of my taper, or if I should just let the knee rest, or if I should skip this marathon altogether! It's a hard decision. I'm signed up for Frederick in a couple of months, so the time off may be a good thing. But I really love the B&A marathon and want to run it. I'm sure I can get through it -- the issue is one of doing more permanent damage.

 

 

Ah well, decisions, decisions, decisions...

 

 

 

 

 

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Well, only 4 weeks to the Baltimore and Annapolis marathon, 2008. I'm not ready. I thought I wasn't ready for the Marine Corp Marathon last fall, but I'm really not ready for this one. I think all the training I did for the MCM is gone and has been replaced by Christmas and New Years training, which is mostly doing beverage lifts!

 

 

I've done some 18 mile runs and did a 14.4 last night, but my knees are protesting and I generally felt tired and weak. Tomorrow I'm gonna drag my sorry arse out of bed at 5:30 to hook up again with the striders for a 22 mile trainer. If that goes well, then I might think there's hope. I'll do one more 20+ and then taper. It's a short taper, but I'm not focused on this marathon anything like I was for the MCM. I'm using it more as a long-distance training run for the Frederick, which isn't until May.

 

 

But I can't have a slower time either (some ego, huh?).

 

 

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I'm training for my third marathon, the B&A on March 2, 2008 (still trying to type that the first time!). The first was the B&A a year ago. I ran it in a long time -- almost 5:30. Had to walk a bit. The second was the Marine Corp in 2007, basically 7 months later. Ran that in just over 4:39. I was thrilled. It definately helps that the weather is cooler. My goal for the B&A this year is under 4:30. But a great thing is happening -- I'm actually getting faster. I think the tempo and interval runs are beginning to pay off.

 

I ran a 10 mile tempo run last night. Temps were in the low 50s. Great running weather. And I ran fast (for a turtle, that is). Completed the run in 1:28:20 -- averaging 8:50 per mile. Now, mind you, there is no way I could keep that up for a full marathon. Not yet anyway. But not too long ago I could not have run a 10k that fast. In fact, I was running 10ks in about that total time.

 

 

 

So, I'm beginning to think the unthinkable -- maybe a turtle can break 4 hours in a marathon. Probably not this Spring. But, maybe in the fall.

 

 

 

Strutting onward, chest out!

 

 

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Ouch -- Starting Over

Posted by Steve Carton Nov 29, 2007

 

Well last evening was our first real distance run since the Marine Corp Marathon. Until now, we had done several 10 milers and a bunch of lesser stuff. But the MCM was one month ago yesterday. Until now, I had been blindly thinking, "I'm in great shape now. I could do another marathon". Not.

 

 

Mind you, it was a fine, fun run. A bit chilly and windy at times, but very nice conditions. We managed 13.5 miles in 2:16. Which is faster than we ran the first half of the MCM, so a new PR. And I felt fine afterwards. I could have gone farther. But not another 13 miles. So, I figure I'm at about the 16- or 18-mile point in my training. Surprising because I would have thought I was still in the same shape I was in at the time of the MCM. But I'm not.

 

 

Today I ache a bunch -- my bod is reminding me that this is hard stuff. I am fortunate that I'm in a club -- the Annapolis Striders. And we've started the Spring marathon training program. So I'll be ready.

 

 

Slogging onwards...

 

 

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So I'm pretty sure, though not 100% certain that I'm gonna sign up for the National Marathon   in late March, 2008. I also like the B&A marathon  (which I ran last year as my first ever, and loved) and my RB wants to consider the Frederick Marathon , though that's quite a hike for me. Anyway, I signed up for the Annapolis Striders  training program again. We run 10 miles this Saturday morning.

 

10 miles. Hardly worth getting up for -- we ran that last night after work as a first run after the MCM. I can't help but feel like we should do at least 16. But the experienced ones on the Striders coaching team know best. And anything will help keep the turkey gravy from adding to my waistline.

 

March is a long ways off --  5 months. Oh, wait, that was how far back we were when starting the MCM training.

 

 

 

By the way (except it isn't), anyone else in the DC area notice that we went from summer to winter overnight?

 

 

 

Slogging onward...

 

 

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My Running Log

Posted by Steve Carton Nov 5, 2007

Back in May when I started training for the MCM, I found an Excel spreadsheet running log by David Hays. (dhays@davidhays.net). I downloaded it and started tracking my runs. Boy is that nice -- I can see how much weight I've lost, how my speed and distance have improved and generally how I'm doing. I recommend this to anyone with Excel (and, I guess, a computer).

 

A copy of the file is attached...

 

 

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Withdrawl :-(

Posted by Steve Carton Nov 2, 2007

It's has now been 6 days since the MCM and I haven't been running at all. Some walking. No running. I think I'm going through withdrawl. I'm getting nasty and bitchy and mean. I feel fine and could probably run, at least slowly (I'm a turtle, afterall!). No lingering inguries or pain. But I haven't. Main reason is, I gotta pay back favors to family for all the time off for training. So no time for running this week.

 

I'm gonna try and head out Saturday morning. Maybe some other Striders will join me. Maybe not. But I feel the need ...

 

 

 

Slogging Onward...

 

 

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I don't get this. Through the summer, as my RB and I have been training for the MCM, the heat and humidity have been oppressive. Our times were correspondingly slow (even for turtles). Our water intake was correspondingly high (I think I drank well over a gallon of water during one long run). So now it's cooler and dryer and our paces are picking up and our water consumption is down to a mere fire-hose. And I felt great about that as we headed toward the taper.

 

 

But now, in the taper, we're trying to run a little slower than our target race pac (tortoise + 15). But, we can't seem to run that slowly, especially for these shorter distances. We both feel soooo much better in the cooler weather that we're just running faster than we ever ran in the summer. So last Wednesday we did a 12-mile taper long-run and we ran it in a PR.But we were trying to go slow!

 

 

I guess that bodes well for the actual marathon.

 

 

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It's kind of a joke, really. I run so slowly that any "normal" runner would have to look carefully to note forward progress. Boston Qualifier? I'm getting faster, but I think by the time I reach an age where I could qualify, I'll be dead! So why am I doing this? Simple, fitness. I'm slogging proof that a person can be heavy (circumferentially challenged) and still run distances.

 

Here's the thing: When I ran the B&A Marathon (my first), I weighed 230 pounds. I had been running no more than 10-15 miles per week. I was on blood pressure medication and had recently had the dose increased. Now (2-weeks prior to the MCM), I'm down to 208. And my BP is normal without medication. That was a significant thing - I was running with my RB (running buddy) when I started feeling faint. This happened in a couple of mid-distance training runs (<15 miles). So I went to the doctor, fully expecting him to tell me I had some heart condition and I needed to stop running, blah, blah, blah. But, to my shock and delight, he told me that the running had corrected my blood pressure and that the medication was pushing it too low! I'm thrilled. My wife is thrilled. My kids are thrilled. Even the dog is thrilled. So I'm committed to this program.

 

 

This month, the MCM. My RB and I are looking to find something to run during or just after the holidays. And then another in the Spring. And who knows; maybe I'll move faster than a turtle someday!

 

 

 

 

Poking along...

 

 

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