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    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:19:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Running with Ankle or Wrist Weights</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1241626?tstart=0#1241626</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c9a7bff7-4231-4613-b3d1-5a6dd292ba16] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well has anyone even tried it? I mean 2.5 pounds each on each wrists. Or 2.5 on each ankle. OR a vest with ligher weights. That might help alot and people have opinions on it but no one wants to try it and share the results :\... It seems like the one guy here was saying he does lunges in the gym.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; TO my experience gym exercises do not help running at all. Weights do not help running. Running with weights is not really even tested much so..&amp;#160; this leaves me confused.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c9a7bff7-4231-4613-b3d1-5a6dd292ba16] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:19:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1241626?tstart=0#1241626</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-08-10T11:19:19Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>9 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>how do i increase mileage?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1241625?tstart=0#1241625</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:f11165c7-068d-41dc-9336-97b54b6c1049] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just run as much as you can whenever you don't need recovery. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:f11165c7-068d-41dc-9336-97b54b6c1049] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:14:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1241625?tstart=0#1241625</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-08-10T11:14:20Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>9 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Running with Ankle or Wrist Weights</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1219489?tstart=0#1219489</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9132ffab-b6e3-4dfd-9c2b-e1921123df55] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lets share information on this because I cannot find much information on this topic. Running with ankle or wrist weights or even a vest can be super beneficial. I used to run with them all the time when i was 15 but that was when I trained more for sports and not for races and more just running, not serious distance running like I got into a year afterward. When you take the weights off you feel awesome like you can run so fast it is the best feeling in the world.&amp;#160; It really worked but I was probably doing middle distance type running at that time. I have not experiemented with weights while I run much so I am asking people to share their story if they have!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe that 1-10 pounds can help you. If you do without adding to much on at once at first, do not do it everyday at first, gradually add them on and be careful, then you can get huge benefits from it. It does sometimes throw your running allignment off but not that much and you can get used to it so your body won't get thrown off as easy. I understand that you can just run faster or run more hills as an alternative but perhaps weights on ankles or wrists will be even better because its increasing gravity and then it is like losing weight instantly when you take the weights off and that unleashes speed you never had before. It might even make you get more progress faster!!! If running with ankle weights botheres your bones on your ankle or feet then try wrist weights you can get them in the sports store. Mine are a Keys Fitness brand.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am asking people to experiement with them and post their results on here. Or if they had already tried tell us how it went. I advise you to do it intelligently and only add on 5 pound max the first time until you know what you are dealing with. Do a shorter distance than your average distance run. Because you might tire out suddenly and have to go a long long way back after feeling fine at first. Lets share information here see what we can learn from eachother. I don't care if you are a fast runner a medium runner or a slow runner we can all learn from this together!&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My recent experience: I&amp;#160; decided to use wrist weights instead of ankle weights on&amp;#160; July 9th/2012 . I was gonna do 4 miles max but i decided I should do less because I started getting tired so the one road was blocked so I went less distance than i was going to but gladly I turned around and only did 2.5 miles because I felt fine at fist then started wearing out fastly! The wrist weights are 2.5 pounds each so together they are 5 pounds but boy it really made a difference! I felt really fine the first mile I wasn't fatigued or anything and was like just having these things on my arm felt like they were just there but not weighting me down. I felt like a little off balance but not to much and i forgot about it after 2 minutes and was running totally normal. After a mile or so I started to feel my quadriceps were working harder. I didn't realize it until the first hill the quads were firing a bit harder almost as if i felt like i was doing squats with 2 35-45 pound weights on a barbell.. Like a little tired but not to bad if you get what i mean! Then My calfs felt as they were working harder too. Quads working much harder but calfs working moderately harder but not as much of a precentage harder than my Quads.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then I could feel my heart rate go way way up. I was like holy crap It felt like I was doing a straight up hill workout but even harder. Because On hills my heart rate didnt go up that much. I could feel it beating hard because it was pumping more blood than it normally does to my big leg muscle(quads are big on anyone).&amp;#160; So my lungs felt fine though but i just felt my heart was beating harder like kinda like out of breath without beating harder.. That's kinda similar to what happens on a uphill run your heart rate goes up but lungs do not increase its work as much as your heart. By the way im mostly a flat ground runner. Then My lungs do not start working hard until afte 2 miles. I&amp;#160; took a 1 minute break half way done then after 2 miles with 0.6 miles to go I had to push to keep going. It was exhausting and tiring. I felt drained after the run and 2.5 miles is NOT alot for me at all. Took me a while to relax after that I did not feel comfrotable at all afterward. BUt i felt good when I took the weights off I felt like sprinting but just took it easy because I was starting to overwork my body to overtraining so I stopped.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Only 5 pounds did all that work holy crap Imaging if i adapted to running with 5 pounds where it wasnt hard? Imaging adapting to 5 pounds? Imaging adapting to 10 pounds?? OR even 15 wow.. Or if i lost 5 pounds how much faster would I be ???? Just adding 5 pounds made me fatigue after 2 miles when i can run 10 miles with medium effort then&amp;#160; losing 5 pounds would make me run like suppper fast!.. Maybe this is the adaption we need to experiment with to learn if its a alternate way to train.&amp;#160; I think i will only do this once every week or 10 days&amp;#160; because i dont want decrease my milage to much to do this so I will only alternate it in with my other runs... Weight really is the most important thing it seemed by after experiencing this. I do got some fat on my stomach and chest So maybe I need to lose that fat and ill be ALOT better&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Post on if weights with running have helped you!!! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9132ffab-b6e3-4dfd-9c2b-e1921123df55] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:11:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1219489?tstart=0#1219489</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-11T04:11:17Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Is upper body a vital part of running long distance?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1219487?tstart=0#1219487</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c37f388c-27f4-4ea1-a9f6-a93e40b27fe7] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Upper body doesn't affect lower body. DOn't listen to these people If my arms are strong or week it doesnt effect my legs. ANd stomach doesnt affect your legs either!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c37f388c-27f4-4ea1-a9f6-a93e40b27fe7] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 03:33:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1219487?tstart=0#1219487</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-11T03:33:28Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>What to do after first half?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1219484?tstart=0#1219484</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:76c9f46d-03d7-40dd-ba0a-71526e20dfbb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would at least try to get your half marathon a decent time before you do a full marathon. If your running a half marathon in 2 hours then do a marathon 3 months later you will be lucky if you run under 4 hours because a marathon is much more than double the effort even though it is double the distance only.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My first half marathon was 1:40:56. BUt I did 16 17 mile runs and brutal super long runs thats how i build up enough strength to do it. I got to the point where 10-13 miles was easy after doing these longer runs sometimes around 20 miles. Those are serious training that requires hours of nonstop running.&amp;#160; So I suggest not doing a marathon until&amp;#160; a half marathon&amp;#160; you can run on any weekend if you wanted. Also, to get my time i could run mile repeats in 5:20s and stuff mostly under 6 minutes in mile intervals. My 1 mile max time was more than that though if i did 1 at top speed. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I did 11 mile course near my house tons and tons and tons of times... To get that time.. So y ou people running a half in high 1:50s or low :2:00's its no surprise because you have not put in the required work yet..&amp;#160; Those 17 type mile runs really are an experience and its the most amazing feeling when your 17 mile tums drop 20 minutes..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:76c9f46d-03d7-40dd-ba0a-71526e20dfbb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 03:30:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1219484?tstart=0#1219484</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-11T03:30:11Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Fastest way to get BACK into shape after Losing  it?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1218447?tstart=0#1218447</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:2a7d7f29-3d41-4ab1-b0af-1e5655b54379] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was off running 3 years. I&amp;#160; used to be below 19 mins on most 5k and below 1:40 on all my half marathons besides 1. Now I am having trouble doing almost anything. It took me a long time just to run under 9 minute mile for a single mile OMG i can't believe that. I ran that in march or feburary. Now its july I only gotten a little faster doing 7:26 is my fastest mile and my pace for runs is like 11 minute miles. Slower if its hot even :\&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I seem to be improving to slowly. I think maybe I am being patient rather than agressive? I used to be a super agressive runner that would do anything crazy. But it took me years to run under 19 min 5k's I know some people excell faster than me but I take alot of work to improve always it seems. More than an average person to get the same goal I think. I am only 25 im not old and im 6'3 176 pounds. I spend most of May and the end of april basetraining like 6 weeks doing as much miles as I can it seemed to help but I only improved in 1 month so much. It seems in march of this&amp;#160; year When i was going all out 20 min runs on the treadmill I was making more progress than I am with half the milage per week I did in may. But not sure. I only got up to 28 miles per week which isn't alot compared to what i Used to do but if I did more than that the miles would probably be&amp;#160; so slow it would be redicilous so I couldn't do more than 28.. Trust me..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some of the problems this year after reading my logbook is the month of April. I overtrained april seconds So had to totally rest my quads. It was one of those freaky overtraining things where you cant even run. I had to do not much 10-14 days. This happened Once in my entire life before this significatly so I knew right away it was overtraining so i rested and my quads went back to normal. Not sure the cause of the overtraining but im just telling you that I did. Then near the end of april I got the flu which 4 days ruined. I missed running 3 days but I walked 1 of the days and jogged super slow the 4th day but all my momentum faded. Then last week of april and all of may basetraining with no speedwork so i can make my milage per week more. It helped me a bit but i feel only a little progress not enough like i wanted.Then june and july im mixing speed worrk in with all a variety of training doing it all and not overtraining.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Has anyone ever lost it all and had to bring it back? What is the fastest way to bring it back? Should I attempt getting to 40 miles a week or doing more tempo type runs? Fartlek is not good dont even suggest that to me please its just uncontrolled intervals. My milage is 18-25 now with speed work but if i went to the 30s i wouldnt be able to do speed work. I can do around 32 maybe per week if i slow it down alot and all long slow distance. My experience with that is that LSD long slow distance is not good to do to long becuase you will not benefit from faster speed work. So if i keep my intervals balance and add on a few miles i can get up in miles but my intervals will have to slow down. I cant add more of everything at the same time because then I would slow slow slow down to 12 min miles Like i was doing in Janurary &lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.active.com/4.5.5/images/emoticons/sad.gif" width="16px"/&gt;.&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am making progress but 3-4 months from a 8:45 mile to a 7:26 mile is not progress. The slower miles are easier to improve on. I dont know how the hell when i was 16 i ran a 6:19 mile without speed training I dont think i justt did tons of 8-10 mile runs. Anyway if you read all this and found it interesting im glad. Anyone have an idea? I hope I explained the situation where you don't tell me anything silly because u misunderstood me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One more question: is improving my 1 mile time more important than my 4 mile time or doesnt matter? It seems that 1 mile is easier to improve but they are all connected I think. Like if your mile time gets faster so does yout 4 mile and 8 mile time so I cant just focus on 1 mile fast run and expect that to be the easy guy then build off that adding on distance once i get it down to a 6 minute mile or faster. BTW i ran 11 miles max only without stopping ever since i got back. IF i build my long distances maybe tats the key? Im really confused and im tired of slow progress. Im running on flat ground mostly too and not even adapted to hills so if i hit a hill on a race even after i get faster ill be in trouble!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:2a7d7f29-3d41-4ab1-b0af-1e5655b54379] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 05:21:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1218447?tstart=0#1218447</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-08T05:21:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Effort vs. intensity in 8 mile run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1218445?tstart=0#1218445</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:2fa99631-6a0a-4ba5-81ee-8ac78a525025] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;IF this helps you sometimes I would start running faster after&amp;#160; even 45 minutes in really long runs. Of course I couldn't be still warming up that long could I? That happened to me here and there all the time when i used to be in good shape. It just means your engine is still getting fired up and that is a good sign. Just as you don't overtrain or run in direct July sunlight you will be fine dont worry about it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:2fa99631-6a0a-4ba5-81ee-8ac78a525025] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 04:59:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1218445?tstart=0#1218445</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-08T04:59:35Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Top GPS Fitness Gadgets</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1218442?tstart=0#1218442</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:78351c68-8f43-43de-b906-9e5912af2400] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;RunKeeper is totally Awesome dude!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:78351c68-8f43-43de-b906-9e5912af2400] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 04:54:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1218442?tstart=0#1218442</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-08T04:54:31Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>First time half marathon?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1218439?tstart=0#1218439</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:07503bf4-f851-424a-8db3-f2f3520ec666] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;15-20 mile sa week? You should be doing 15-20 mile runs even if your milage is low. It takes time but you actually got to go out and try to run as long as you can for a while. If you can already handle 20 a week you can at least start off at 8-9 mile runs and start working up now.&amp;#160; ANd yes you can do it by Janurary but probably can't predict how fast you will be able to run it because you didn't do those distances yet. It would probably be like 2:05-2:40 Im guessing .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:07503bf4-f851-424a-8db3-f2f3520ec666] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 04:53:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1218439?tstart=0#1218439</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-08T04:53:25Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>My plan for running faster...</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1217567?tstart=0#1217567</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fe0c7a46-1713-40e6-afce-d77e542aefcf] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Recovery should be as long as your time was for the 800.&amp;#160; so take 4 minutes or 4 minutes 30 seconds. I do recovery By time not distance. Thats how they do it in cross country in college. Walk or very slow jog as recovery. Your 800 has to be about 4:30 try to make slighty faster. If you have a bad day just keep going even if its slower than your goal because at near race pace is still decent. It should be a challenging workout for you. And I say only 3 800s because if i said 4 800s and you are doing them with alot of effort your 4th one you would be much slower so I said 3 so you can skip the 4th until after 1 or 2 or 3 traning sessions after this one.&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Try to have a checkpoint so you know how fast you are going. ANd try to memorize what 9 minute miles feels like so you dont start to fast or to slow. If you start a 800 like its a 200 M dash you will burn out!&amp;#160; If to slow then your your not hitting your goal race pace. So try to get under that 4:30 You defiantly can. You might be able to do it in 4 minutes or less. If you can do it in 4 minutes try to do the next ones in the same time as your first.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fe0c7a46-1713-40e6-afce-d77e542aefcf] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 17:33:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1217567?tstart=0#1217567</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-07-05T17:33:53Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>10 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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