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    <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:47:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Road bike advice</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/649458?tstart=0#649458</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:59885e78-766b-42fd-8ec0-f9241e767193] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cap'n Willow, I think you made a good choice.&amp;#160; I have the Giant OCR1, the earlier version of your new bike.&amp;#160; I like it a lot as it rides well without excessive road vibration and is very stable on down hill runs as well.&amp;#160; The Trek that was mentioned seems to have lower grade Shimano shifters than your bike does.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; I may move up to a full carbon bike, probably a Giant, but the OCR has been great.&amp;#160; Good luck with it and don't forget your helmet!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:59885e78-766b-42fd-8ec0-f9241e767193] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:47:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2009-08-31T19:47:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Scott or Giant?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/648453?tstart=0#648453</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:bd887f49-f4eb-4473-a2e9-3c64c9286f79] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am looking at both, also.&amp;#160; I have a Giant OCR 1, the predecessor of the Defy line, but mine only has carbon in the fork and seat post and has an aluminum frame.&amp;#160; I rode the Scott for only a few miles (before it rained!) and it seemed very nice.&amp;#160; It has 105 throughout, as you noted.&amp;#160; The Giant Advanced has an Ultegra rear shifter, though.&amp;#160; On the other hand, the brakes are Tektro, not Shimano.&amp;#160; My present bike has similar equipment and the brakes seem fine, other than some peeling of the chrome coating. I haven' had a chance to ride the Giant yet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, the Giant comes with pedals that the dealer might give you credit for if you don't want them.&amp;#160; In any case, ride them both and ask the dealer a lot of questions.&amp;#160; I suspect that you won't go wrong with either, but I'm not a professional!&amp;#160; Also, Giant makes more frames than anyone, I believe, including frames for a number of other bike companies, so they probably have the method down pretty well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; If you are seeing each bike a different dealer, that could be a factor also.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Having a good, helpful and respectful dealer is very important.&amp;#160; For instance, where I got my Giant and am looking at both the new ones, they will fit new road bike purchasers on a computerized device to help get the optimal setup; I don't know if the device really helps, but the idea that they do it appeals to me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good luck and post your thoughts!&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:bd887f49-f4eb-4473-a2e9-3c64c9286f79] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:29:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2009-08-31T00:29:52Z</dc:date>
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