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    <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:06:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: GPS or Cycling Computer?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/492341?tstart=0#492341</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d7921535-dbba-41de-8fab-bee25350fa6c] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;thanks for the reply!&amp;nbsp; I think I am going to get the cateye strada.&amp;nbsp; The part about not needing to change batteries for months won it for me. &lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.active.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d7921535-dbba-41de-8fab-bee25350fa6c] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:06:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/492341?tstart=0#492341</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-07-31T16:06:40Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>GPS or Cycling Computer?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/492040?tstart=0#492040</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:52c87843-bd8d-486b-aecb-07c8eedf53e6] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi, i was wondering what is more acurate as far as pace and distance traveled.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A Garmin GPS or a regular cycling computer that mounds on the wheel.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; I have a garmin forerunner that is pretty good for running.&amp;nbsp; The pace jumpes around a bit but I think that the distance is pretty acurate.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was thinking that a bike computer that mounts on your wheel may be more acurate than gps and will give a smoother reading on your pace.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;am i right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:52c87843-bd8d-486b-aecb-07c8eedf53e6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:49:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/492040?tstart=0#492040</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-07-30T16:49:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>17</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Can a hybrid bike do well in criterium?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/490798?tstart=0#490798</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:f0f02da2-ccc8-430f-a4e5-4e9bc2afbb22] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi, I am thinking on doing my first race.&amp;nbsp; Its a local 20mi Criterium.&amp;nbsp; I feel good and my engine and lungs are strong.&amp;nbsp; But this being my first race I dont have an all out expensive road bike yet.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I will be racing with a stock '08 Trek 7.3 FX&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/2008/road/fx/73fx/"&gt;Link to my bike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My question is...&amp;nbsp; If two ppl with the same physical strength and endurance race against each other,&amp;nbsp; one of them with a $2,000 carbon fiber road bike and the other with my trek, how much of a difference could there be?&amp;nbsp; Will the road bike finish 5 miles ahead of the Trek FX or could it possibly be a close race?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know aero dynamics are a big deal in racing, but this is a 0.8 mi loop criterium with many 90 degree turns, so I dont think we will getting up to a speed fast enough where aerodynamics are a big deal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; What do you guys think?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, will people just flat out laugh at me with my hairy legs and hybrid bike when I pull up to the starting line?&amp;nbsp; I dont care if they do but all the cyclists that I have met so far are kind of snoody.&amp;nbsp; I wouldnt mind beating a few of them with several thousand dollars more in gear.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:f0f02da2-ccc8-430f-a4e5-4e9bc2afbb22] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:51:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/490798?tstart=0#490798</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-07-25T18:51:38Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Goodbye friends</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/427442?tstart=0#427442</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c4c8c0e4-bc77-4fd6-9e0a-f153a82dea17] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;dear coolrunning.com,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;why!?&amp;nbsp; why did you have to screw up your site?&amp;nbsp; this new one sucks.&amp;nbsp; i can log on just fine and i still think this site sucks.&amp;nbsp; I think I may move on down the road.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;RIP old coolrunning forums&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c4c8c0e4-bc77-4fd6-9e0a-f153a82dea17] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:09:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/427442?tstart=0#427442</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-01-15T18:09:50Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 10 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: The new Asics Gel-DS Trainer 13</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/427188?tstart=0#427188</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cfe504a9-2d1e-4213-83be-fbd259ab50c4] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes, they are more flexible but also sized funny.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey Asics, did you guys lose your shoe sizing templates and are now just eye balling it or what?&amp;nbsp; I usually wear a 10.5 in most shoes, and i am weargin 11.5 in the new trainers and even that is a bit snug.&amp;nbsp; WTF?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cfe504a9-2d1e-4213-83be-fbd259ab50c4] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:48:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/427188?tstart=0#427188</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-01-14T19:48:35Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 10 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>The new Asics Gel-DS Trainer 13</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/426247?tstart=0#426247</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cf0e3e8a-59ba-49fe-8216-eabe72ca667a] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am a big fan of the ol' ds trainer 11.&amp;nbsp; The 12 did not work out for me and I went to the NB 902.&amp;nbsp; Resently I purchased a pair of the brand spanking new DS Trainer 13.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So far I like it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One thing that drives me crazy though, is that all my other asics shoes have been size 10.5 and I am wearing a 11.5 with the new 13s.&amp;nbsp; And my toes are still a bit cramped in there.&amp;nbsp; I guess I will never get the comfortable feel of the DS 11's back, ever.&amp;nbsp; Overall, it is going to be a good shoe.&amp;nbsp; Its pretty lightweight and looks pretty cool too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just wish that shoe companies would not change their shoes every **** year.&amp;nbsp; Or at least, if they put out a great one like the 11, they should just continue making the same model and never change it till the end of time!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Maybe I should try a Loco shoe.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Anyone else try the DS Trainer 13???&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cf0e3e8a-59ba-49fe-8216-eabe72ca667a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:35:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/426247?tstart=0#426247</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-01-10T17:35:12Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 10 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Whats size got to do with it?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/77345?tstart=0#77345</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7cbc35f5-1dec-4dbf-9442-ec9571827fd7] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just my 2cents here...&lt;br/&gt;Haile Gebrselassie is sort of short&lt;br/&gt;While Paul Tergat is pretty tall.&lt;br/&gt;Both have set marathon world records...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7cbc35f5-1dec-4dbf-9442-ec9571827fd7] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:58:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/77345?tstart=0#77345</guid>
      <dc:date>2007-12-06T18:58:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 11 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: What is training too fast doing to my body?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/350237?tstart=0#350237</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:092b7702-ecf4-45e5-b4f0-13a336b01f4f] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;IMHO,&lt;br/&gt;First of all, if you are running too fast everyday and you are not feeling overtrained and/or getting injured then you may not be running too fast. Maybe you are racing too slow and the McMillian calculator makes you think you are running too fast based on your slow race time.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But to answer your question about what you are doing physiologically by running all your workouts too fast...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your recovery efficiency will probably be lowered. Which means all the fast running is slowing your progress. You need easy runs to loosen you up and increase blood flow to your muscles so they can repair and replenish. But you have to run slow enough to not create more microscopic tears or deplete muscle nutrients further.&lt;br/&gt;You may be strong enough or stubborn enough to handle running fast all the time, but if you want to become the fastest that you can be, you need to balance your running.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span&gt;If you like to run fast, then run fast. Do a speed workout and a tempo run everyweek (take a whole easy week every so often) but run easy on the other days of the week. Of course you need a good ol fashioned long run. I like to run those fast sometimes !&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif"&gt;http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;|src=&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif"&gt;http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/wink.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;|border=0!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But yes, don't write checks your physiology can't cash.&amp;nbsp; You will have to pay the injury man eventually if you do!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:092b7702-ecf4-45e5-b4f0-13a336b01f4f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:59:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/350237?tstart=0#350237</guid>
      <dc:date>2007-12-03T21:59:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 11 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: I completed 20 years of running today.</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/421979?tstart=0#421979</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cd7a74fe-ff5a-450c-9381-b26a29c70e16] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;nice!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cd7a74fe-ff5a-450c-9381-b26a29c70e16] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:19:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/421979?tstart=0#421979</guid>
      <dc:date>2007-11-29T21:19:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 12 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: New Forum Needed !!!</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/195937?tstart=0#195937</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:2bbc3512-25e1-4a56-9f7e-315439132c34] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sorry, i had to continue my rant...&lt;br/&gt;I mean really, part of the description for the Multisport Training Formus says, " as well as the benefits and techniques of cross-training. " but go in there and scroll through a few pages and count how many posts there are about the great and wonderful benifits of core training for running improvment!&lt;br/&gt;Core strength is a big deal for all sports, i think. We need a forum that highlights this important running related subject! There are hundreds of great core exercises (and other strengthening/stretching routines for other body parts) out there and I know that many of you running vets have good ideas to share so lets create a new forum dedicated to strength training and flexability ideas!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you and Go Cowboys!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:2bbc3512-25e1-4a56-9f7e-315439132c34] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:28:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>wing zero</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/195937?tstart=0#195937</guid>
      <dc:date>2007-11-29T20:28:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 12 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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