<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss xmlns:clearspace="http://www.jivesoftware.com/xmlns/clearspace/rss" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" version="2.0">
  <channel>
    <title>Active Community: Message List - Calf strain or tear ?</title>
    <link>http://community.active.com/community/sports/running/injuries?view=discussions</link>
    <description>Most recent forum messages</description>
    <language>en</language>
    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:50:06 GMT</pubDate>
    <generator>Jive SBS 4.5.5.2  (http://jivesoftware.com/products/clearspace/)</generator>
    <dc:date>2010-11-20T01:50:06Z</dc:date>
    <dc:language>en</dc:language>
    <item>
      <title>Re: Calf strain or tear ?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/887049?tstart=0#887049</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:5bd1c37d-fe51-49f8-8e32-bcf35acdb001] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You will find that more permanent objects like subcutaneous cysts,&amp;#160; varicosities, etc. tend to stay put, while a rrigger point is a&amp;#160; spontaneous phenomenon that tends to move around. It may even disappear&amp;#160; as you press on it, which of course is your goal. They tend to occur at&amp;#160; familiar locations, though, which correspond to points in the muscle&amp;#160; that are more vulnerable or closer to motor nerve entry. I liken them to&amp;#160; circuit breakers that occasionally trip and need to be reset. Otrher&amp;#160; things to look out for are arteries, which throb, and nerves, which may&amp;#160; produce a more painfully electrical sensation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A&amp;#160; trigger point will often hurt but feel the need for more pressure. They&amp;#160; are more active electrically than surrounding tissue and can be detected&amp;#160; by sensitive equipment and visualized by specialized MRAs. Once&amp;#160; deactivated, they should reappear with decreasing frequency if you&amp;#160; handle them promptly, unless there is a biomechanical or environmental&amp;#160; issue that continues to irritate the host muscle.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Although&amp;#160; tools like tennis balls, golf balls, Sticks, etc. seem safer at first,&amp;#160; you will eventually become more comfortable with your thumbs because of&amp;#160; the tactile feedback and level of control. Frequency of application&amp;#160; depends on how much the area is bothering you, but prophylactic&amp;#160; treatment would begin with once a day. I work my calves/achilles area&amp;#160; with soaped fingers in every morning shower. If something is really&amp;#160; bothering me I will get on it as frequently as I feel the need, but&amp;#160; rarely more than 3-5 times a day. A session of trigger-pointing an area&amp;#160; seldom takes longer than a minute or two, and most serious problems&amp;#160; become manageable within a few days to a few weeks if not immediately.&amp;#160; In rare cases a few months are required, especially after years of&amp;#160; dysfunction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am not surprised you calf has quieted&amp;#160; down, but you now have another tool in your kit to make sure it stays&amp;#160; that way, even after your level of training increases. Good luck with&amp;#160; your running!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:5bd1c37d-fe51-49f8-8e32-bcf35acdb001] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:50:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/887049?tstart=0#887049</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-11-20T01:50:06Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 6 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:objectType>0</clearspace:objectType>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Re: Calf strain or tear ?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/886683?tstart=0#886683</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:1aea4ab2-0003-4567-9a77-15c46bcae45a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;James,&amp;#160; Thank you for all the detail.&amp;#160; I will take your advise and use my thumbs to work on the deep trigger points.&amp;#160; That raises another question, as far as identifying the "trigger points."&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Should I assume that any spot that I feel or roll the Stick over that feels tender or "un-smooth" (almost like feeling a small knot) is a trigger point that should be focused on ?&amp;#160; I don't want to over-do it with either the Stick or just using my thumbs and cause any damage, so I need to figure out a plan or a daily routine (how many reps/ how many sets/how many times each day or every other day, etc).&amp;#160; The only problem I have is with my calf, so I will focus on those.&amp;#160; I have also heard (if it's true) that you can use a golf ball to work on the deeper tissue.&amp;#160; I'm not sure I can trust my thumbs yet to get the job done.&amp;#160; I did about 9 miles of running for a few minutes (very slow), then walking about the same number of minutes and experienced no problems with the calf.&amp;#160; Any additional thoughts you have are appreciated.&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Steve&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:1aea4ab2-0003-4567-9a77-15c46bcae45a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:47:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/886683?tstart=0#886683</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-11-18T21:47:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 6 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>1</clearspace:replyCount>
      <clearspace:objectType>0</clearspace:objectType>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Re: Calf strain or tear ?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/885925?tstart=0#885925</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c825e7f9-7e0c-4081-9fb0-52fbe8f8a62e] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;While the Stick may help maintain your calf muscles, and the&amp;#160;&amp;#160; manufacturer is aware of the power of massage, there are times when more&amp;#160;&amp;#160; focused pressure is more appropriate. Muscles with injured portions&amp;#160;&amp;#160; that result in mini-spasms (aka "trigger points," referred to in the&amp;#160; article as "knots" around micro-tears)&amp;#160; can be very persistent as you&amp;#160; have found, and often cannot be rested&amp;#160; away, even lasting a lifetime in&amp;#160; extreme cases. In fact, trigger points&amp;#160; have been photographed in fresh&amp;#160; cadavers.. It's hard to get more relaxed&amp;#160; than that, yo.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Consistently&amp;#160; rolling over a trigger&amp;#160; point with a stick or foam roller may bring&amp;#160; results in easier cases, but&amp;#160; for a persistent trigger point you need&amp;#160; more focused pressure. It may&amp;#160; "laugh" at anything less, even get worse&amp;#160; from the irritation. At the&amp;#160; very least you may waste precious time. Sit&amp;#160; in a chair and prop your leg&amp;#160; up where you can easily get to the rear&amp;#160; calf with your thumbs. Probe&amp;#160; the entire length of the layers of muscle&amp;#160; here for sensitive spots, some&amp;#160; of which can be invisibly small,&amp;#160; comprised of only a few mutinous&amp;#160; fibers. It is here that focused&amp;#160; pressure, delivered in a series of&amp;#160; short, few-second applications, can&amp;#160; bring near-instant relief to trigger&amp;#160; points. On the other hand,&amp;#160; spreading the pressure over a broad area&amp;#160; with a roller can de-fang your&amp;#160; approach. Deep points need deeper pressure, or they will not be&amp;#160; deactivated. I know because I work on them for a living.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The&amp;#160; longer trigger points have persisted, the more&amp;#160; likely they are to&amp;#160; return, which is why you want to repeat this&amp;#160; treatment a few times a&amp;#160; day for the days, weeks, or months it may take&amp;#160; to re-educate your&amp;#160; neuromuscular system. Just as old habits are hard to&amp;#160; break, ingrained&amp;#160; patterns of pain and discomfort are a well-worn pathway&amp;#160; of&amp;#160; neuromuscular discomfort that is frequently revisited until your&amp;#160;&amp;#160; persistence has banished it to history. Damage to the muscle in question&amp;#160;&amp;#160; is not always the cause. Sometimes they are due to damage in a&amp;#160;&amp;#160; neighboring muscle that has shifted the workload next door.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When&amp;#160; you've taken care of the more acute problem(s),&amp;#160; by all means return to&amp;#160; the tool of choice for general flushing and&amp;#160; circulatory maintenance -&amp;#160; but if you must roll, &lt;em&gt;please&lt;/em&gt; roll in&amp;#160; the direction of the heart&amp;#160; to protect your veins and lymphatic system,&amp;#160; which are fitted with&amp;#160; one-way valves for this purpose. Otherwise, you&amp;#160; risk damage to both.&amp;#160; I've seen entirely too many people use the Stick in&amp;#160; this improper way,&amp;#160; and the sales lit, all manuals and articles of&amp;#160; reference should always&amp;#160; mention this, but don't (it should be embossed&amp;#160; on the tool itself). I&amp;#160; use my own soaped hands in the shower for the&amp;#160; same purpose, with more&amp;#160; definition and control, not to mention&amp;#160; portability. I own a Stick,&amp;#160; which has been gathering dust in my living&amp;#160; room for nearly 10 years. I&amp;#160; find it too hard for comfort, and too flat&amp;#160; and blunt for detail work on&amp;#160; curved and multi-faceted muscles. Though&amp;#160; there are knobbier versions&amp;#160; that improve the experience, I wouldn't risk&amp;#160; a Boston Qualifier for it&amp;#160; no way, no how, or I might be using one professionally to rest my&amp;#160; thumbs.&lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.active.com/4.5.5/images/emoticons/wink.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here's a tool that lets you strip away and view the layers of muscle...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.getbodysmart.com/ap/muscularsystem/footmuscles/soleus/tutorial.html"&gt;http://www.getbodysmart.com/ap/muscularsystem/footmuscles/soleus/tutorial.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c825e7f9-7e0c-4081-9fb0-52fbe8f8a62e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:27:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/885925?tstart=0#885925</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-11-17T02:27:31Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 6 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>2</clearspace:replyCount>
      <clearspace:objectType>0</clearspace:objectType>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Re: Calf strain or tear ?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/885755?tstart=0#885755</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a576c1c0-b659-45ff-b96f-dbc66235bb45] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Len, thank you tremendously for the article.&amp;#160; It is exactly what I am experiencing and I'll implement the plan it outlines.&amp;#160; This just comes on without warning and stops me in my tracks, hence the aptly named "calf heart attack" title.&amp;#160; I have a "Stick" and probably don't use it enough.&amp;#160; In the past, I've been told that I have very tight calf muscles, so I need to commit to doing a lot more vigorous stretching than I currently do and maybe I'll still get to Boston next year.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; Again, thanks!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Steve&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a576c1c0-b659-45ff-b96f-dbc66235bb45] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:41:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/885755?tstart=0#885755</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-11-16T19:41:01Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 6 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:objectType>0</clearspace:objectType>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Re: Calf strain or tear ?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/885731?tstart=0#885731</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d505e9f2-3495-47be-8357-d4b2b683690a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I did sprain my calf a few years ago.&amp;#160; But I took 7 weeks off and came back with no problem.&amp;#160; It's strange to have it come back after such a long time off, unless you were pushing too hard or just got unlucky.&amp;#160; I have seen one article which seems to have helped several people.&amp;#160; Maybe it will help you too - link below.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.thestick.net/Articles/Calf_%20Heart_%20Attack.htm"&gt;http://www.thestick.net/Articles/Calf_%20Heart_%20Attack.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Len&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d505e9f2-3495-47be-8357-d4b2b683690a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:47:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/885731?tstart=0#885731</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-11-16T18:47:04Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 6 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>1</clearspace:replyCount>
      <clearspace:objectType>0</clearspace:objectType>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Calf strain or tear ?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/885671?tstart=0#885671</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9d5275d9-0d8f-4224-b932-0f2cbfcf5548] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;About 10 years ago, I suffered what was diagnosed as a mild calf strain which prevented me from running, though walking was fine after a few days.&amp;#160; I ended up taking a month of from running, but it reappeared again after a few days of slow running and would continue this pattern even after I took several months off, then started again.&amp;#160; It originally came on without warning or without strenuous running....it just appeared within a few steps of slow jogging and I had to totally stop running.&amp;#160; It feels like I was kicked hard in the soft, center part of the back of the calf muscle.&amp;#160; Okay, well I ended up taking several years off from running and got back into it a year or so ago and hadn't had any unusual issues until a month ago, when the calf issue reappeared without warning during the first mile of a slow run.&amp;#160; I limped back and thought "here we go again - end of running for a while."&amp;#160; As long as the advice for a a calf strain is accurate, I have followed it and tested it out a few days ago and it reappeared again, starting the clock for recovery once again.&amp;#160; I have no problem walking 5 or 10 miles and I don't even feel it, but I know it will come back if I start to run or jog.&amp;#160; Does this sound like a calf strain/tear to anyone who has experienced something similar ?&amp;#160; It is very frustrating because I was getting good at all my distances and managed to qualify for the 2011 Boston Marathon, but now this has occured.&amp;#160; I am planning to take off from running until January 1, then test it slowly.&amp;#160; I am just looking for advice from other runners who have experienced something similar.&amp;#160; Many thanks to anyone who replies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9d5275d9-0d8f-4224-b932-0f2cbfcf5548] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:55:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/885671?tstart=0#885671</guid>
      <dc:date>2010-11-16T16:55:39Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>2 years, 6 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>5</clearspace:replyCount>
      <clearspace:objectType>0</clearspace:objectType>
    </item>
  </channel>
</rss>

