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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61412?tstart=0#61412</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c4d1b224-f5c2-4207-b85c-e88dfd0413a8] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;5K 20:04 (6:28/mile ~)&lt;br/&gt;4M 27:45 (6:56/mile +0:28)&lt;br/&gt;5M 35:11 (7:02/mile +0:06)&lt;br/&gt;10K 44:30 (7:10/mile +0:08)&lt;br/&gt;10M 1:15:09 (7:31/mile +0:21)&lt;br/&gt;HM 1:44:15 (7:58/mile +0:27)&lt;br/&gt;M 3:41:49 (8:26/mile +0:29)&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;I have been running a little over 5 years, 25 to 30 miles per week (peaked at 50 miles per week while training for the marathon.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My 4-mile to 10-mile races seem to fall in line with calculators. The reason the 5K is so much "better" than the other races is that it is on the easiest (flattest) course. The half marathon is old; I think I can take almost five minutes off from it. As for the marathon, I do not think I will be able to improve it. Due to family, I cannot train the number of miles necessary to get the marathon time down.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://interwovendesign.com/kick/userdisplay.php3?username=MaineRunner2001" target="_blank"&gt;Profile[/URL" target="_blank"&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;[&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://This"&gt;http://This&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt; message has been edited by MaineRunner2001 (edited May-18-2006).|&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://This"&gt;http://This&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt; message has been edited by MaineRunner2001 (edited May-18-2006).]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c4d1b224-f5c2-4207-b85c-e88dfd0413a8] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:07:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/61412?tstart=0#61412</guid>
      <dc:date>2006-05-18T15:07:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>5 years, 5 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61435?tstart=0#61435</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:2dc9efac-22fb-42fa-804f-947706f9c5a0] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm in the same boat as some of the above posters; I suffered from a lack of overall endurance in my first marathon.&amp;#160; My other times mostly follow my VDOT predictions (~ 48.5) from Daniels' formula:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1 mile - 5:58&lt;br/&gt;2 mile - 12:40&lt;br/&gt;5k - 20:38&lt;br/&gt;10k - 42:44&lt;br/&gt;10 mile - 1:11:09&lt;br/&gt;20k - 1:28:54&lt;br/&gt;25k - 1:54:00&lt;br/&gt;30k - 2:17:53&lt;br/&gt;Marathon - 3:30:48&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I should have run a 3:17:00 marathon, according to the charts.&amp;#160; I dropped off at mile 19 when I tried to catch back up with my 3:20 pace group after a bathroom break at mile 15.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:2dc9efac-22fb-42fa-804f-947706f9c5a0] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:39:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/61435?tstart=0#61435</guid>
      <dc:date>2006-06-03T19:39:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>6 years, 11 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61434?tstart=0#61434</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a7d4f033-4079-4d9d-a347-debe50efa313] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;3km&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; - 9:53&amp;#160; - 3:16/km&lt;br/&gt;5km - 16:41 - 3:20/km - +04sec&lt;br/&gt;10km - 34:22 - 3:26/km - +06sec&lt;br/&gt;15km - 55:19 - 3:41/km - +15sec&lt;br/&gt;42.2km - 2:56:39 - 4:11/km - +30sec&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;start falling off the pace in the marathon although it was a negative split so I hope one day to lower that time significantly if I can only string a decent period of time of high milage together without injury.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;----&lt;/p&gt;&lt;hr originalText="-------------"/&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://interwovendesign.com/kick/userdisplay.php3?username=kiwirunning" target="_blank"&gt;My Profile[/URL" target="_blank"&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Never, never, never give up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a7d4f033-4079-4d9d-a347-debe50efa313] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 03:48:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/61434?tstart=0#61434</guid>
      <dc:date>2006-05-27T03:48:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>6 years, 12 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61433?tstart=0#61433</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b6e00549-e082-4e28-be1f-16b256821794] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;5K: 18:56 6:05.6&lt;br/&gt;10K: 39:06 6:17.6 +12.0&lt;br/&gt;10m: 66:10 6:37.0 + 0:19.4&lt;br/&gt;1/2: 1:27.28 6:40 +3.0&lt;br/&gt;m:&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; 3:11:04&amp;#160; 7:17.2 +37.2&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b6e00549-e082-4e28-be1f-16b256821794] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 17:17:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
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      <dc:date>2006-05-24T17:17:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>7 years, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61432?tstart=0#61432</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:0ff918ba-1aa2-4539-98c2-a079160af45a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;1Mile- 5:58 (1999)&lt;br/&gt;5K- 21:03 (2005)&lt;br/&gt;HM-136:07 (2005)&lt;br/&gt;Marathon 3:38:32 (2005)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:0ff918ba-1aa2-4539-98c2-a079160af45a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 17:06:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
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      <dc:date>2006-05-24T17:06:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>7 years, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61431?tstart=0#61431</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3c796d96-37e0-49de-808c-1462b773a3ec] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;All within last 18 months...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;5M: 5:51/Mile (2005)&lt;br/&gt;10M: 6:06 ; +0:15 (2006)&lt;br/&gt;Half: 6:23 ; + 0:17 (2005)&lt;br/&gt;Full: 6:57 ; +0:34 (2006)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3c796d96-37e0-49de-808c-1462b773a3ec] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 15:37:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
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      <dc:date>2006-05-24T15:37:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>7 years, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61430?tstart=0#61430</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:afc81e98-afe1-48af-812d-2ea98ad2b596] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;(All 2006, not ancient history)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;5k: 19:51&lt;br/&gt;10m: 65:35&lt;br/&gt;1/2 marathon: 1:26:35&lt;br/&gt;marathon: 3:08:45 (Boston)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:afc81e98-afe1-48af-812d-2ea98ad2b596] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 22:45:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
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      <dc:date>2006-05-23T22:45:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>7 years, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61429?tstart=0#61429</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7d170f76-cc86-4efa-ad2c-e48c07e81684] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Within the last year, relative to mile pace.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;sec/mile slower than a mile race pace:&lt;br/&gt;5k, +16sec.&lt;br/&gt;10k, +43sec. (very soft)&lt;br/&gt;10mi. +46sec.&lt;br/&gt;1/2mar. +53sec.&lt;br/&gt;20mi. +61sec.&lt;br/&gt;mar +64sec.&lt;br/&gt;66k +152sec. (ugly)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7d170f76-cc86-4efa-ad2c-e48c07e81684] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 21:01:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
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      <dc:date>2006-05-23T21:01:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>7 years, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61428?tstart=0#61428</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:1347013a-6371-477c-9b59-4451c549f5ff] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;5K:&amp;#160; 5:33/Mile (2006)&lt;br/&gt;10K: 5:47 (2006)&lt;br/&gt;15K: 6:06 (2005) &lt;br/&gt;Half: 7:51 (2001)&lt;br/&gt;Full:&amp;#160; 7:02&amp;#160; (2005)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:1347013a-6371-477c-9b59-4451c549f5ff] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 20:09:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/61428?tstart=0#61428</guid>
      <dc:date>2006-05-23T20:09:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>7 years, 2 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Forget Calculators: Actual Results?</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/61427?tstart=0#61427</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:bacebf9d-5554-4986-95de-39842510c810] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah. I think I could run a 3:07:15 on a flat course. But those other times are wayyyyyyyy out of my reach.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think the 3:07 PR is a bit on the soft side. I ran it at Boston last year in the heat. I think I was in sub 3:05 shape for Boston. Perhaps better on a flatter course. Who knows.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;BTW, I wouldn't say the other times are out of your reach. You aren't that far away. You're only :18/mile off the 1/2 mar &amp;amp; :30/mile off the 5 mile. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Keep workin' it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:bacebf9d-5554-4986-95de-39842510c810] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 15:59:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
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      <dc:date>2006-05-22T15:59:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>7 years, 3 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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