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    <pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:13:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>running on Paleo???</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1082176?tstart=0#1082176</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:23c3e09e-b3bc-43e6-ada3-5bf4b34c21d9] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm in week 1 of cutting out carbs but training for NYC and Philly marathon in 8 and 10 weeks.&amp;#160; I've been loosely following Maffetone's slow running philosophy so all of my training runs have been slow.. keeping my heart rate at 147 or below.&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So far, so good.. I ran a 19 miler since cutting out carbs but I think it was too early in the process to be a true test of whether I can compete on a low carb diet or not.&amp;#160; I have a 18 mile race coming up in less than two weeks.. we'll see how that turns out.&amp;#160; Thankfully, I don't have any problems digesting grains so I can always go back to carbo-loading if need be, but I figured I'd try a new approach and see how it works out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It's been a few months since you started.. are you still doing it? how is it working out?&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:23c3e09e-b3bc-43e6-ada3-5bf4b34c21d9] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:13:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2011-09-15T23:13:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>running on Paleo???</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1080922?tstart=0#1080922</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:193dfcc3-e8c0-4f4f-af72-6ce7974944e4] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;It takes a few weeks for your body to adapt burning fat as your primary fuel. At first you will feel lythargic and your muscle may hurt. but over a couple of weeks of reduced training you will adapt. Mike Pigg was the number 1 tiathlete in the world and followed the Atkins diet. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I woild suggest adding quinoa, sweet potato and rices to your diet. Post workout the carbs would greatly aid your recovery.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.ultimatehlth.com/NUTRITION.html"&gt;Weight Loss Los Angeles - Hollywood&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:193dfcc3-e8c0-4f4f-af72-6ce7974944e4] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:08:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1080922?tstart=0#1080922</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-09-13T01:08:36Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: running on Paleo???</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1069687?tstart=0#1069687</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:df8997df-363f-4f69-b692-0bcb8ec651ad] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am coming at this from the other direction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In March 2011, I was diagnosed with type II diabetes. 46 year old male.&amp;#160; 5'10", weighing 257.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have been on the paleo diet for about 5 months now, and have dropped 50 pounds.&amp;#160; My blood sugar is now completely normal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The paleo diet I am following is very low carb.&amp;#160; Under 30 grams per day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyway, a few weeks ago, I started picking up running again.&amp;#160; (I ran marathons as a teenager).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have been very surprised at how well I have been doing running with low carbs.&amp;#160; Just yesterday, I completed my 5 mile "long" run.&amp;#160; I went out first thing in the morning, completely empty stomach, in ketosis, and didn't have any unexpected problems.&amp;#160; Was slow... finished in 70 minutes.&amp;#160; But, felt strong the whole time.&amp;#160; OK... I didn't feel "strong"... like when I was running sub 3:00 marathons as a teenager.&amp;#160; But, I survivied.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think that the difference between me and shelebele is that my body has been well adapted to fat burning for months.&amp;#160; When I start my runs, I am burning fat, so if my mucels run out of glycogen, any "wall" may be less noticable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am tempted to suggest dropping carbs to under 50 grams per day for a week or two... up to a month... kick start your body into fat burning mode.&amp;#160; But, I will not do so.&amp;#160; This actually is where my area of concern lies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I still have at least 30... 40 pounds to loose.&amp;#160; So, I do not really need to worry so much about maintaining my weight while running on low carbs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But, I am still very concerned that as I progress in my running, that I will be unable to properly provide fuel before, during and after my long runs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Will I survive a 20 mile run, starting in ketosis, not taking any carbs on the way, and not carbing up after the run?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Or, will I have to up my carbs, and risk knocking my body out of fat burning mode?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Seems to be somewhat uncharted territory.&amp;#160; Even the previously mentioned "The Paleo Diet For Athletes" seems to advocate a much higher carb rate then I am used to:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.trainingbible.com/pdf/Paleo_for_Athletes_Cliff_Notes.pdf"&gt;http://www.trainingbible.com/pdf/Paleo_for_Athletes_Cliff_Notes.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:df8997df-363f-4f69-b692-0bcb8ec651ad] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:37:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2011-08-22T16:37:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: running on Paleo???</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1063424?tstart=0#1063424</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:0136c882-4e8d-47aa-bf29-c56cd7a3f362] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You may have already seen this book, but I suggest reading "The Paleo Diet for Athletes", by Loren Cordain.&amp;#160; He's an authority on eating in this manner and seems to have written this book with endurance runners in mind. You can definetly get your carb running requirements from non-grain sources.&amp;#160; I eat this way for health and weight management and have run between 20 and 45 miles per week with no extra fatigue issues.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:0136c882-4e8d-47aa-bf29-c56cd7a3f362] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:49:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2011-08-16T21:49:36Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: running on Paleo???</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1029843?tstart=0#1029843</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:03e5d1f8-6406-402a-b512-46b46b5dbdfb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;shelebele,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi.&amp;#160; I haven't had any experience with the Paleo diet.&amp;#160; I looked over some of the information at thepaleodiet.com, and I have a good idea of what the diet entails.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That being said, I would encourage you to check out "Thrive: The Vegan Nutrition Guide to Optimal Performance in Sports and Life: by Brendan Brazier.&amp;#160; Brazier's book is written for athletes.&amp;#160; In it he includes recipes for energy bars, energy gels, recovery snacks, sport drinks and recovery drinks.&amp;#160; Vegans do not consume animal product, so all of these recipes are lactose free.&amp;#160; Brazier contends in his book that "high levels of gluten are not historically natural to our diet; they are a modern creation."&amp;#160; Many of the recipes are gluten free or have traces of gluten from ancient grains.&amp;#160; In looking through the energy bar recipes (there are 8 of them), they are all gluten free and lactose free.&amp;#160; The energy bars work very well.&amp;#160; I use them before runs and races.&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Depending upon your diet prior to starting the Paleo diet, what you're experiencing could be a cleansing period.&amp;#160; Many times when people change from a diet of pre-packaged/highly refined/higly processed food stuffs to a diet of whole foods there will be a time when the body expells the garbage from the prior diet to the new good for you food.&amp;#160; That cleansing time frame will vary from person to person.&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This book has helped me imensely.&amp;#160; There are a variety of recipes for all meals.&amp;#160; It's a great way to live and it powers my runs, triathlons and life. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hope that helps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Victor&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:03e5d1f8-6406-402a-b512-46b46b5dbdfb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:34:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2011-07-08T19:34:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>running on Paleo???</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1015758?tstart=0#1015758</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:6b33d732-b23a-4313-a74a-7f18d53ec49f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p id="[object]"&gt;I have recently been diagnosed with a lactose and gluten intolerance which cuts out ALL of the things that I fuel my runs with.... yogurt, bagels and the like!!&amp;#160; About 3 weeks ago I began to follow the Paleo diet with the total exclusion of whole grains and dairy....&amp;#160; I had planned to just cross train for 2 of those weeks to get through the "adjustment" period of burning fat instead of carbs but got a terrible&amp;#160; cold so 2 weeks turned into 3.&amp;#160; Last night I went for my first run since starting this new way of eating and became nausea's and light headed at the 3 mile mark of a 5 mile run.... I had taken a small package of honey with me... just in case.... and used it and felt slightly better and was able to complete the 5 miler.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; I have reasearched this diet extensively and really want to give it a shot.... not really as a "diet" but as a lifestyle but I am a RUNNER!!!!&amp;#160; I am by no means an elite athlete....&amp;#160; I am a 46 y/o middle of the pack runner and usually log 25-35 miles a week ....&amp;#160; but I WANT to complete another marathon and do a half Ironman soon.&amp;#160; So my questions are to those who have tried this way of eating.....&amp;#160; How do you fuel for your training runs?&amp;#160; How do you fuel for events?&amp;#160; Did you experienced the same "symptoms" in the first few weeks of eating like this?&amp;#160; And does it go away??? (PLEASE tell me it does!!!)&amp;#160; I am soooo discouraged at this point....&amp;#160; running is thereapy for me!!!!&amp;#160; Can't imagine a day without it!!!&amp;#160; HELP!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:6b33d732-b23a-4313-a74a-7f18d53ec49f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:33:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2011-06-24T14:33:53Z</dc:date>
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