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Take off that bandaid

guest — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:53:01 GMT

Rich:

I will freely admit I have a HUGE anti-Yankee bias. It is as much fun to watch them lose as it is to watch Dallas lose. It has nothing to do with saying it was a BS complaint. That's not to say some of your other examples don't fall in the same boat. I was shocked when I heard both NY and Philly lost.

Re: Take off that bandaid

guest — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:04:37 GMT

Who (here) is trashing the team? IMO, None, Manager--Yes! Not so much as rising to the level of using your word "trashing" because, IMO---Gerardi has proven to be a good manager---but, lacking judgment in asking for the band-aid to be removed in the case at hand.

The Tigers WERE involved---without their pitcher having to remove the band-aid----no OP, no discussion here.

And as you noted in your first post this thread---the possibility of the whole band-aid scenario came about as a retaliatory gesture by Gerardi for something the Detroit manager did in a previous game with the Yanks.

As to your question....."So how many here would be bringing it up.........if it had been the Rangers or Tigers or Brewers?"

ANS;--I would, among others here who did respond against the removal of the band-aid.

Safe to say would be "voicing" their opinions----no matter what teams/managers involved.

So, it appears, unless a poster is in complete agreement with your views on the subject, and when the Yankees are involved--[lest we be charged with anti-Yankee biase]--we should remain "quiet."

FYI----IF it was the Red Sox manager-[as we bow our heads]-- who asked that the band-aid be removed, I would have taken, and IMO-- so would others here, the same stance as I have on the subject before us.

You're good with making your point(s) citing baseball rules, posting rules, on just about all baseball rule sets---and your input re rules on these boards is valued and appreciated

But on issues involving the Yankees-----at times your objectivity--[if any]- -gives way to subjectivity; but you are entitled to your views----as we who do not agree.

Read again the OP's question!!!

Lou,---IMHO--knew his OP would be an interesting thread/subject, inviting varied discourse on an otherwise slow board.

Frank!

Re: Take off that bandaid

guest — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:32:39 GMT

Rich_Ives wrote:

So how many here would be bringing it up and trashing manager and team if it had been the Rangers or Tigers or Brewers?

I would, for one. Heck, if it had been Leyland that brought something up like this against a Yankees pitcher, I would be offering the same opinion.

Rich_Ives wrote:

And since when are head games somehow not part of sports. Been there since the beginning. Won't be stopping anytime soon.

Not debating that. I fully realize head games have always been a part of all sports. My point was that I personally don't like them. I also don't like home plate collisions, retaliatory pitches, flops to draw fouls or stop the clock, etc. etc.

But to get back on topic, I also personally don't feel the bandage was that big of a distraction that I would direct the pitcher remove it. This umpire felt otherwise, and that's his prerogative. To each his own, I suppose.

Re: Take off that bandaid

guest — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:44:53 GMT

So how many here would be bringing it up and trashing manager and team if it had been the Rangers or Tigers or Brewers?

If folks want to think actions (like bat waving or bandaids) are BS that's fine - just apply it evenly.

And since when are head games somehow not part of sports. Been there since the beginning. Won't be stopping anytime soon.

Re: Take off that bandaid

guest — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:38:55 GMT

Conversely, it can be said, YOUR Yankee pro-bias is showing!

The band-aid issue has nothing to do with anti-Yankee bias..... but nice try!!

Much surprised you would level that charge.

Your comment/charge "ranks right there with" ....."I've shot my load guys---have nothing more to say to defend my position or defend Gerardi's complaint."

Plus---the Pedro sleeve length (complaint) example you brought forward is supported by rule; as was the Wells' glove example. The Francona jersey issue edict came out of the Commissioner's office. [According to Jerry Remy at the time.] Actually, what "gamemanship" in re to a manager's jersey?----Didn't impact a game, delay or otherwise--- in any way, shape, or manner..

No matter the team or manager involved; the band-aid issue debated this thread stands alone-----absent bias!

You said it right with......"if the Yankees pull a stunt"---calling it what it was: "stunt"---> being the key word. Definition of which speaks to Gerardi's complaint.

Frank!

Take off that bandaid

guest — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:38:23 GMT

Rich, my response has nothing to do with any Yankee bias. I just don't condone any of that kind of gamesmanship, that's all. And I certainly don't care for it when the stakes are high. You didn't see the Red Sox or the Braves pull those stunts as they were in their respective free-falls in September, did you?

All of your examples, as far as I'm concerned, are BS stunts. IMHO, that kind of crap has no place in the game, whether it goes for or against the Yankees or any other team.

Teams should play to win through their skills, not through head-games.

Re: Take off that bandaid

guest — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:27:58 GMT

OK Guys - your anti-Yankee bias is showing.

This gamesmanship happens a lot more than you think.

Someone (can't remember who) once complained that Francona didn't have a team jersey on under his sweatshirt.

The Yankees aren't the ones that made Pedro change undershirts because the sleeve lengths weren't the same.

The Yankees weren't the ones that made Davis Wells (on the Yankees at the time) change gloves because of its color.

The Yankees aren't the ones who made whats-his-name wear a long sleeve shirt because his tattoos were distracting.

There was a big stink years ago when a Yankee pitcher was required to remove his neck chain.

But darn, if the Yankes pull a stunt it's enough to ban them for life.

Gee - it ranks right up there with bat waving.

Gimme a break.

Re: Take off that bandaid

guest — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:03:41 GMT

I would "bet the house" that if one asked the Yankee hitters privately----one on one---especially nice guy Jeter, if a band-aid on a pitcher's face was a distraction while at-bat---the answer would be "no-way." Manager's attempted mind-game aside---which did not work! Subject relief pitcher retired the next five Yankee batters----ending the ball game! A loss for the Yanks!

If "audacity" was a splinter--Gerardi would be owning a lumber yard for pulling that stunt.

P.S Someone please remind me, Joe Gerardi, and others here, to watch for a Yankee pitcher needing and wearing a facial band-aid next year.

Frank!

Take off that bandaid

guest — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:26:39 GMT

I did not see any of the action shots and only briefly looked at the article, but I'm finding it hard to believe that this is an issue in a Major League Ball game.

Re: Take off that bandaid

guest — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:20:34 GMT

Rich_Ives wrote:

You really really didn't find your eyes drawn to the bandage?

You really really don't find yourself drawn to looking at the abnormal?

Yeah, I would be slightly taken aback the first time I saw it, which would be from the dugout or on-deck circle. But not after I get in the box and focus on the task at hand. I agree with Frank; if a professional player still has his eyes drawn to the bandage well after he notices it, well, he doesn't deserve to be a professional player. He would also have trouble batting against these guys:

C'mon, Rich; it's not like the mole scene in Austin Powers.