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      <title>Re: a few marathon questions</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1175162?tstart=0#1175162</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cfeaa6fb-4d84-429b-861e-55ab0c42039f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fuel:&amp;#160; You should consume 30-60 grams of carbs per hour for exercise lasting 1-2 hours or 45-90 grams of carbs per hour for exercise lasting more than 2 hours:&amp;#160; Fuel is a lot more important in a Full!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I run year round and keep my base fairly high around 35 MPW, during my marathon cycle it gets up to around 60 or so I think the plan you will be using gets around 50-55.&amp;#160; It's a good plan I used for my 1st.&amp;#160; For your 1st I think most people would tell you to start at the beginning because after 18 weeks your are going to feel it.&amp;#160; I did for my 1st.&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As far you a goal time go to the McMillan Running Calculator (Google search will pull it up) and put your last HM time in and it will give you a time that is close.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Starting early, I believe a good base year round keeps you healthy, but start your plan 18 weeks out like the plans calls for.&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;His plans allow for races during it, I run several races during my cycle it is good for you just don't over do it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Keep up the cross training and core.&amp;#160; Good Luck&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cfeaa6fb-4d84-429b-861e-55ab0c42039f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:00:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2012-01-31T14:00:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>a few marathon questions</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1175111?tstart=0#1175111</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:31cfd68f-8fec-416a-ba6d-80ac8e34c1e9] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Mon - weights (many reps/low weight-mostly core and upper body) = 1 hr&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Tues - 6 mi run&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Wed - 6 mi run&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Wed - martial arts drills/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;cardio&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; = 45-60 min&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Thurs - 6 mi run &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Fri - off&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Sat - long run&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Sat &amp;ndash; yoga = 75 min&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Sun - total body conditioning = 75 min&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Sun - general circuit training = 1 hr &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;45 yo female - Been running for just over 2 years.&amp;#160; Run a &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;HM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; about 5-6 times a year, 1-2 in Summer and the rest Fall/Winter.&amp;#160; Also run several 5K+ throughout the year.&amp;#160; I do speed work 1x week for 13 weeks ending in &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Aug&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;#160; After speed work last year I had PR for &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;HM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; in Sept. of 2:11.&amp;#160; I'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;ve&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; signed up for St. Louis R&amp;amp;R Marathon this Oct.&amp;#160; It will be my first.&amp;#160; Listed my estimated finish time 5:15.&amp;#160; I'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;m&lt;/span&gt; happy to just finish and most likely will not do it again.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; I want to give myself the best chance of success with the least punishment possible so it'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;ll&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; be &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Higdon'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; novice II program.&amp;#160; Above is my current weekly schedule except the Wed run, which &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;I&amp;rsquo;ll&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; add when I begin training.&amp;#160; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;I&amp;rsquo;ve&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; been doing this schedule for about 4 &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;mos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;#160; (Willing to give up circuit training and yoga and scale back martial arts intensity during training, but really want to keep the other stuff.)&amp;#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I'm thinking about beginning training in Feb and keep my current workout schedule to see if it is too much.&amp;#160; If it is, I have time to rest/ rehab fine-tune race nutrition, etc. and start again in about June. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Is it OK to take &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;HM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and double it for FM, &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.e. &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;HM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;=3-4 &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Gu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; p&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;ks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;, FM would be 6-8, 2x hydration?&amp;#160; Is my estimated finish time (5:15) realistic?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Is there a point to starting way early (Feb) in case I have a setback or better to just have one training session and take things as they come?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;If only one session, then should I use my pre-training time to drop some weight to make up for the water &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;I&amp;rsquo;ll&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; have to carry with me AND make it easier on my body overall? (&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;BMI&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; = normal range)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Should I start Novice II at the beginning, even though I run more then that now, or start closer to my current distances?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Can I still participate in 5k+ events throughout training, so long as I cut way back on number of &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;HM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and/or run slower?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thoughts? Advice? Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:31cfd68f-8fec-416a-ba6d-80ac8e34c1e9] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:16:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2012-01-31T06:16:59Z</dc:date>
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