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    <title>Active Community: Message List - Speaking of called games.......</title>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 13:57:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Speaking of called games.......</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1202258?tstart=0#1202258</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e8456209-08f1-4ee6-9525-9a6592265219] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Right&amp;#160; Mike..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I figured that possibility.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, given the score at the end of five innings--18 to 7---&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You could of invoked the 10-run rule to stop the game then and there,&amp;#160; avoiding any discussion with the "testy" manager about darkness descending, safety issue, 2010 local rules,&amp;#160; etc.&amp;#160; :-)&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frank!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e8456209-08f1-4ee6-9525-9a6592265219] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 13:56:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2012-05-07T13:56:29Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Speaking of called games.......</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1202176?tstart=0#1202176</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7130904c-42c2-4839-9ae0-47dfbfd1dcac] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frank:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Score at the end of 4:&amp;#160; 13-5.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;:-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mike CVUA&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7130904c-42c2-4839-9ae0-47dfbfd1dcac] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 10:06:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1202176?tstart=0#1202176</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-05-07T10:06:14Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Speaking of called games.......</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1201769?tstart=0#1201769</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cbd6e6c2-6d72-40df-abe8-aac3de4db543] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;For the sake of discussion Mike....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Assuming Little League---Majors---or, competitive minors.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Appears the game should of been stopped by you upon the completion of the home team batting, bottom of the 4th inning, via the 10-run&amp;#160; mercy rule.&amp;#160; .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In regard to using the "modified" 2010 "house rules"----AKA----Local rules.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LL local rules are annual rules-- thus expire each year; subject to being renewed, or not renewed, by the&amp;#160; newly elected incoming BOD.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The option to utilize, or not utilize by a league being embodied in Rule 4.10(e).&amp;#160; Citing a 2010 "house rule"....and quoting you.."I would have stood on that"-- absent any reference renewal in 2012... is a no-no!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since..your words..."we don't have a set for 2012"... stating non-use of the 10-run rule---then by the LL 2012&amp;#160; Rule 4.10(e), the game should of been stopped by you&amp;#160; upon the completion of the 4th inning.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your reference to....." let the VT have more batting practice in the top of the 6th"...-----makes me believe it was a Majors or below game---thus, you stopping it, by the 10-run rule, upon the completion of the bottom of the 4th was in order.&amp;#160; Precluding any rationale on your part in regard to darkness and not being able to see the ball to convince the losing manager your intent to stop the game.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The "testy" manager not knowing the 10-run rule, being his problem.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frank!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cbd6e6c2-6d72-40df-abe8-aac3de4db543] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 14:07:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>guest</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/1201769?tstart=0#1201769</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-05-06T14:07:49Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Speaking of called games.......</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/1200839?tstart=0#1200839</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:06dcc57a-869a-4d87-b998-836a9cbab13e] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I had a game last night on a field without lights.&amp;#160; VT was a power hitting club!&amp;#160; They scored a lot of runs in many innings.&amp;#160; I don't think there was anything aroung with the HT pitching or their fielding (for the most part).&amp;#160; Just that the VT was well coached in the hitting skills.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So as we entered the bottom of the 5th inning, I told the managers that this would probably be it because it was getting dark.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;HT manager got testy!&amp;#160; "If we have a 1-2-3 inning, then there would remain enough light to continue to play!&amp;#160; You got to let us play!"&amp;#160; Sure!&amp;#160; I want to let the VT have more batting practice in the top of the 6th at the expense of his kids?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey S4B!&amp;#160; I get to make the call on a safety issue!&amp;#160; [And don't forget, the only one who really has to see the ball is me!&amp;#160; And if I can't see it, we call the game for darkness!]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Luckily, HT got a small rally going in the bottom of the 5th and only lost 18-7!&amp;#160; And by that time it was really starting to get dark!&amp;#160; I would have also sprung the 10-run rule....which was modified by the 2010 house rules;&amp;#160; and since we don't have a set for 2012, I would have stood on that!&amp;#160; (So put that into your pipe and get arrested for posession of it!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Would have loved to have seen a protest on that one!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mike CVUA&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:06dcc57a-869a-4d87-b998-836a9cbab13e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 12:32:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2012-05-02T12:32:35Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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