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Re: Runs & workouts, Sunday, September 23, 2012

guest — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:57:31 GMT

Hi Mike, glad you liked the article.

I'm not following anyone's marathon plan other than my own... lol I knew what I wanted to run for mileage and the workouts I wanted to do going in, so it was just a question of gradually building mileage and taking care not to get hurt.

I've tried other plans in the past, but prefer the flexibility of training at my own pace. Recovery runs are a good example, another plan might have me running 4 miles at a prescribed pace, but that plan doesn't take into consideration how I'm feeling or my age. Heck, one recovery run for me might be 3 miles at a 12 minute pace and another might be 6 miles at a 10 minute pace.

Anyway, in just under a week I'll find out if any of this has worked...lol

Minimalist shoes, eh? I bet that's it...lol

Edited to add... Ray, wow, what a day!!

Message was edited by: Richard Davis

Re: Runs & workouts, Sunday, September 23, 2012

guest — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:43:27 GMT

Rich, have to remember that when not feeling so good

Mike, might be. More likely the work you've been putting in...

Sunday was a long day, up at 5:30AM trying to make the 6:00AM hiking group. Didn't and son was NOT happy. We departed with the 6:30AM group and hit the trail just before 7:30AM. Beginning elevation was 7,000ft +/- 100ft. About a mile in we had to have a photographer take a group picture and my son was told he could go ahead and try to catch up with his friend who had left an hour before us. My wife and I got to the peak just before noon (~6.5 miles and elevation 10,200ft +/-). Word from people we were passing was that our son had flown by, jogging and/or walking fast and had indeed caught up with the group that included his friend. At the top wife and I had to decide how we wanted to return, either doing whole loop (~10.5 miles vs the ~6.5 which we already did). We decided on finishing the loop. Turned on the GPS watch (forgot before we started) and we headed down. We were sort of taking our time coming down and I started to complain a bit, the elevation had given me a headache and I probably hadn't eaten enough. Wife asked if it was ok to jog, I foolishly said yes. We did a walk/jog combination for the next 1.5 hours, made up for earlier slow poke time and caught up with several earlier groups of hikers. Lots of up and down and we made it back to the car around 4. Watch got the down trek at 10.6 miles and 3200ft drop. Fitbit recorded the entire outing at about 42K steps, 450 Floors and 16.9 miles. Probably jogged 2-3 miles on the downside. Son was waiting for us at the car and had been waiting for ~2 hours (friend's sister had car keys and we passed her about 1/2 way down).

So, about 17 miles of hiking, lots of up and down at elevation and body feels it much more than the 1/2 last week. 4.5 hour drive back to the bay area and hit the sack early. Hopefully, a recovery run later today.

Ray

Re: Runs & workouts, Sunday, September 23, 2012

guest — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:30:12 GMT

Hey Rich, thanks for the link to the cut back article. It was a good read and informative. Are you following any particular training plan for your marathon i.e Hal Higdon etc.? Your training sounds very disciplined and focused.

I walked the golf course today and felt good. I am surprised at how well my legs feel. It might very well be the new semi-minimalist shoes I'm running in now...could that be? Hmmm.

Welcome back DH. Were you victorius in the chess game?

Runs & workouts, Sunday, September 23, 2012

guest — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:26:22 GMT

10 miles for me today. I didn't know if I should run easy or @ marathon pace, since they both seem to be the same lately. Warmed with a 9:24 first mile, then ran a couple miles @ marathon pace. Mile 4 slipped to 9:01 and mile 5 to 9:11.

Really wasn't enjoying the run much, but dug in and ran mile 6 in 8:55, so back on pace again. At this point, with 4 miles to go I dropped the pace and ran 8:24, 8:32, 8:24 and 8:23. I've read when you're feeling lousy sometimes it's best to throw in a surge and it'll get you feeling better. It actually worked today, I was on the verge of scrapping the run.

Congrats. on the 10 miler Mike, you did well. And I wanted you to read this... http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=23014 It's an explanation of cut-back weeks and how they figure into training.