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    <title>Active Community: Message List - Missed my last long run</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:07:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/450045?tstart=0#450045</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:993f6494-e35c-4019-b77d-b202a76ca93a] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am just very excited about the microfleece jacket, to tell you the truth.&amp;nbsp; &lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.active.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:993f6494-e35c-4019-b77d-b202a76ca93a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:07:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>slowcrazyrunningfool</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/450045?tstart=0#450045</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-03-21T19:07:14Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/449490?tstart=0#449490</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:48cd2c74-ca86-4bc0-9bf5-a029a82c6772] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;div class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;span class="jive-quote-header"&gt;Gretchen Liechty Lynch wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;pre title="Gretchen Liechty Lynch wrote:"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Next Marathon is.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frederick!&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You running it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Absolutely!&amp;nbsp; I'm doing the full Maryland Double (Frederick in the spring and Baltimore in the fall).&amp;nbsp; Dave is thinking about it but he'd better get a move on because it might fill up fairly soon.&amp;nbsp; I hope I'll see you there!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:48cd2c74-ca86-4bc0-9bf5-a029a82c6772] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:18:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Jay Silvio</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/449490?tstart=0#449490</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-03-19T23:18:04Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/449387?tstart=0#449387</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:4137af2c-2dad-460c-8104-93fe802dd14a] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Next Marathon is.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frederick!&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You running it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:4137af2c-2dad-460c-8104-93fe802dd14a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:09:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>slowcrazyrunningfool</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/449387?tstart=0#449387</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-03-19T18:09:37Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/449355?tstart=0#449355</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c73adb4a-7e95-4432-98e5-7cf62093193b] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Congrats on your Shamrock.&amp;nbsp; Glad your last long run went well.&amp;nbsp; Another so soon?&amp;nbsp; You're going to get good at this!&amp;nbsp; You'll find that your times will drop even if you don't push it and do any kind of tempo or repetition work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My 21-milers usually take me about 3.5 hours.&amp;nbsp; I believe that I'm benefiting from them insofar as they are getting much easier to finish.&amp;nbsp; 18 months ago, I was pretty "destructed" after them.&amp;nbsp; Now, I get it done, then go about my day pretty much as if I'd taken the day off.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe Galloway has over-distance runs in his training program.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c73adb4a-7e95-4432-98e5-7cf62093193b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:34:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>DaveVause</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/449355?tstart=0#449355</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-03-19T16:34:02Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/449306?tstart=0#449306</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:13ec98ae-a61c-4185-9c0c-e03cc0ea05c0] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Way to go!&amp;nbsp; What's the next marathon on your schedule?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On a side note, it is doubtful that training beyond 3 hours provides much additional physical benefit, but it might be worthwhile for the psychological advantages.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:13ec98ae-a61c-4185-9c0c-e03cc0ea05c0] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:03:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Jay Silvio</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/449306?tstart=0#449306</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-03-19T15:03:22Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/449231?tstart=0#449231</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a9beb58b-47f9-4419-86f2-6be3b68df5b8] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Update: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I decided that I'd go ahead and do that 20 miler 2 weeks out.&amp;nbsp; I went really slowly -- I walked a lot and took about 5 hours -- because I didn't want to wear my muscles down.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Shamrock marathon was Sunday -- windy, but decent weather otherwise.&amp;nbsp; I beat my PR by 22 seconds, so I don't think the 20-miler was detrimental.&amp;nbsp; I didn't break 4:30, which was my goal, so.....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've already signed up for another marathon in 7 weeks -- these things are addicting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a9beb58b-47f9-4419-86f2-6be3b68df5b8] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:16:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>slowcrazyrunningfool</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/449231?tstart=0#449231</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-03-19T06:16:27Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/443462?tstart=0#443462</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:20df6912-d0e1-4ceb-bae2-df15a05d63f3] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Agreed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was presuming a beginning plan that often has only one run at 20 or so miles.&amp;nbsp; That last long run is a very important confidence builder.&amp;nbsp; If, on the other hand, this is your 3rd or 4th marathon and you've done lots of training runs over 17 miles, missing that last long run is pretty meaningless.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:20df6912-d0e1-4ceb-bae2-df15a05d63f3] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:19:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>DaveVause</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/443462?tstart=0#443462</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T14:19:13Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/443453?tstart=0#443453</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:4d759249-4a51-442e-83fc-e47f905830f6] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;I guess it would depend on how many 20 milers you have already put in.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:4d759249-4a51-442e-83fc-e47f905830f6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:54:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Jay Silvio</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/443453?tstart=0#443453</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T13:54:54Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/443440?tstart=0#443440</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7b03d591-18d3-4c5a-b1fa-c550b835beb9] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jay and I seldom disagree.&amp;nbsp; But this time......&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'd do the 20 miler 2 weekends out.&amp;nbsp; That week, I'd cut my miles by one third.&amp;nbsp; The weekend before the marathon, I'd do 7 miles as the "long" run.&amp;nbsp; The final week I'd cut back my training miles by two thirds.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7b03d591-18d3-4c5a-b1fa-c550b835beb9] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:23:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>DaveVause</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/443440?tstart=0#443440</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T10:23:53Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Missed my last long run</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/443434?tstart=0#443434</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9b8e9a85-4886-4e23-af54-337c3d1a1328] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;I like to sit in the sauna when I feel a little cold coming in, but not to long just long enough to clean your cold pores. Resting is never overrated when trainging for a marathon. Good luck whith your race.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9b8e9a85-4886-4e23-af54-337c3d1a1328] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:40:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>NeilrAdams</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/443434?tstart=0#443434</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-02-27T06:40:43Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 9 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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