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    <title>Active Community: Message List - Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:28:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/526848?tstart=0#526848</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b2792f0a-c28c-4c78-9be1-692d110f4b51] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good luck!&amp;nbsp; Sounds as though you're ready.&amp;nbsp; No entry-form ultras here before January.........&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b2792f0a-c28c-4c78-9be1-692d110f4b51] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:28:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Immer treu</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/526848?tstart=0#526848</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-11-10T00:28:22Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/526826?tstart=0#526826</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9db3764e-cd30-4355-a68d-e212887824a9] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anybody doing the JFK50?&amp;nbsp; Any Ulatras out there?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Did 35.5 miles today 26 on the WO&amp;amp;D and the rest off of the trail &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Will taper from here... &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9db3764e-cd30-4355-a68d-e212887824a9] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:00:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>mbottos</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/526826?tstart=0#526826</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-11-09T23:00:16Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/518301?tstart=0#518301</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:de3573e7-84fd-4a9d-baec-93db42544e03] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;did 18.1 yesterday, the WO&amp;amp;D was sure lonely.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:de3573e7-84fd-4a9d-baec-93db42544e03] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:43:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>mbottos</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/518301?tstart=0#518301</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-19T16:43:40Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/518291?tstart=0#518291</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:859ac912-335e-4c3a-a8a1-74ac849ebca7] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Already posted in Sunday morning runs thread, but my last "long run" for this season was supposed to be 8 miles with the last three at PMP.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I did all eight at 20 seconds below PMP.&amp;nbsp; Felt good and strong.&amp;nbsp; Great cool weather.&amp;nbsp; Bring on the 26.2 already!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:859ac912-335e-4c3a-a8a1-74ac849ebca7] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:20:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>FormerBAM</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/518291?tstart=0#518291</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-19T16:20:12Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/518272?tstart=0#518272</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:6d7e60b9-46ef-4ae0-b05b-ed1907db86e7] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;I guess, Carpool here we come.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:6d7e60b9-46ef-4ae0-b05b-ed1907db86e7] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:43:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>dutch omi</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/518272?tstart=0#518272</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-19T15:43:20Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/518262?tstart=0#518262</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:316bde70-db07-4951-a819-ddfc9d2c0c13] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well here it is the last long run will be 10 miles today.&amp;nbsp; It will be no warmer than 59 today, so perfect weather for the last long run.&amp;nbsp; The taper has been challenging me to show restrait, wanting to go more or go longer, but today I just noticed my legs really feeling light and moving easy, so I can't wait to run in a couple of hours.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have two of my daughter coming down for the run, and it will be great to have them there at different parts and at the finish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I went to the orthopod to check into my butt discomfort, and it is a chronic strain in my gludeas minimus.&amp;nbsp; I was told to schedule PT right after the Marathon (he is a triathlete, so he knew he could not tell me not to run) and to shelve running for two months.&amp;nbsp; I'll have to see about that!!&amp;nbsp; The discomfort has really decreased as I have followed my taper, and today it is virtually non-existent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To All my fellow MCM buddies here, have a fanatastic week, stay healthy, have a safe trip to DC, and a magicla run.&amp;nbsp; Hope to hook with many of you down there, so someone share the details.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ken&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:316bde70-db07-4951-a819-ddfc9d2c0c13] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:19:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Ken_Fagut</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/518262?tstart=0#518262</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-19T15:19:12Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/518261?tstart=0#518261</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:f0363eb4-0d75-41d8-9764-118462bfe88a] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;span class="jive-quote-header"&gt;dutch omi wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;pre title="dutch omi wrote:"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are your wife and kids coming with you to DC Karl?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wish they could make it, but there was no way I could swing the air fare, and I didn't have enough frequent flyer miles.&amp;nbsp; Bummer.&amp;nbsp; Winnie will be tracking me on her phone though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Karl&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:f0363eb4-0d75-41d8-9764-118462bfe88a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:18:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>KarlD_Navy84</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/518261?tstart=0#518261</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-19T15:18:37Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/518255?tstart=0#518255</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:148426dc-f98d-491c-b1a5-13f9910fea9e] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are your wife and kids coming with you to DC Karl?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:148426dc-f98d-491c-b1a5-13f9910fea9e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:50:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>dutch omi</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/518255?tstart=0#518255</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-19T14:50:21Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/518251?tstart=0#518251</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:eb50d5af-a665-4c72-8484-2e7186727e3d] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi Everyone, &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Looks like it's about time to wind this thread down.&amp;nbsp; This morning was my last double digit run prior to the race.&amp;nbsp; I did 10 miles at PMP.&amp;nbsp; The temperature was about 65 degrees and it pretty much stayed there the whole time. I got started just a couple minutes after 5:00.&amp;nbsp; Warm up mile - 9:05.&amp;nbsp; The next 5 miles ranged between 8:26 and 8:36. With 4 miles to go, I was running about 5 seconds off the target pace for the whole run, but on track based on how my splits were going.&amp;nbsp; The last 4 miles went like this:&amp;nbsp; 8:31, 8:19, 8:19, 7:46.&amp;nbsp; Total time - 1:24:32.&amp;nbsp; Average pace - 8:27.&amp;nbsp; So, only a couple more short tune up runs left as well as two bike workouts.&amp;nbsp; Not sure if I will be able to get all four workouts in before leaving Thursday morning.&amp;nbsp; It depends on when my plane takes off.&amp;nbsp; Hard to believe we are only one week away!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I'll be spending all of this last week making sure I stretch really well and focusing on my racing strategy.&amp;nbsp; I feel good about my preparation this year.&amp;nbsp; Now, I guess we'll just see what the conditions are on race day and go from there.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for all the support and encouragement offered on this thread in particular (and throughout the forum in general).&amp;nbsp; What a great bunch of people we have here.&amp;nbsp; Talk to you soon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Karl&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:eb50d5af-a665-4c72-8484-2e7186727e3d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:42:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>KarlD_Navy84</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/518251?tstart=0#518251</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-19T14:42:37Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Long Run Updates (Version 2008)</title>
      <link>http://community.active.com/message/515573?tstart=0#515573</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:048233ef-3ead-4636-9fa2-e526e9986db9] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I will keep this very brief since it was the day of a major marathon that many of our "club members" participated.&amp;nbsp; This is there day.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, here it is in a nutshell.&amp;nbsp; Total distance - 13.1.&amp;nbsp; Target pace - 8:30.&amp;nbsp; Goal time - 1:51:21.&amp;nbsp; Temperature was about 50 degrees and pretty much stayed there.&amp;nbsp; Finishing time - 1:51:15.&amp;nbsp; Pace - 8:30.&amp;nbsp; Pretty happy with the outcome.&amp;nbsp; I definitely need to be mindful of making sure I stay nice and loose on race day in these colder temperatures; especially if it's below 50 degrees.&amp;nbsp; Am considering going with some compression shorts underneath my regular running shorts to keep the quads and hamstrings warm.&amp;nbsp; I think I will experiment with that on my 10 miler next weekend.&amp;nbsp; Talk to you soon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Karl&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:048233ef-3ead-4636-9fa2-e526e9986db9] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:19:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>KarlD_Navy84</author>
      <guid>http://community.active.com/message/515573?tstart=0#515573</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-12T20:19:45Z</dc:date>
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