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Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

Imgellin — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:29:41 GMT

Thanks for the advice on the gels. I am not crazy about the idea of putting processed foods in my body, anyway.

I ran my first ten mile race today, at 8:58 pace. I could have started out faster, but kept the pace a bit slow for the first mile or two.

Paul

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

Spareribs823 — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:35:58 GMT

Don't post here. I started a new thread for March. Spareribs

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

Jacques Le Strappe — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:36:18 GMT

Sounds like DW did pretty well, all things considered. I hope she feels good about her race, even if she had potty breaks. I only had one race where I potty breaked. It was mile 4 of a HM when I went rumbly in my tumbly. By mile 5 I had to pull over for a pit stop that took 02:12, and put me over 2 hrs chip time. It took me 4 years to finally break 2 hrs.

Today was a new beginning. Sweetums is recovering from a week long flu, and I am recovering from my leg issues. But we decided to use up a piece of the day by skiing. It was only 4k and a bit, and in almost 45 min, but it was a start.

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

ksrunr — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:08:03 GMT

What Ribs said. We never ran with gu's or gels etc in the "old" days. I might take a gu maybe even two in a marathon if I'm bonking. Never in any race shorter. I don't even stop for water or gatorade in anything under 10 miles unless the heat is just brutal. Ribs - go over to KR and tell MS about this. She bonked big time today and started on gels before the run.

17 miles today in a 7:48 pace. Winds didn't reach 50 but did hit over 30 mph about 2 miles into the run. Wanted to run faster today as a test (cut back week) but am satisfied considering.

DW ran a 4:39 at Cowtown. 16 mins off her last pr in Oct. but it was the hilliest race she's ever run. Plus as Ribs noted the winds were brutal. Plus 2 unplanned pottie breaks which is unusual for her.

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

Spareribs823 — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:31:52 GMT

Paul, I hope you won't mind if I offer my opinion here, but you will be much better off if you avoid using Gu's and gels and sports beans and the like for short runs. And especially don't use them before you run. The basic idea of these supplements is that they give you an infusion of sugar at a point in a distance run where you are depleted. When you begin to run there is already sugar in the muscles and in the blood, and as this is used to sustain the exercise, your liver will break down stored glycogen ot continue to supply you. At slow paces of course you are also burning fat.

You can run for a couple of hours or more on stored glycogen, which means you needn't rely on candy etc to obtain more. Daws uses this analogy. If you and i decide to race our cars over a one mile course and I have a full tank of gas and you have half a tank, who will win? The answer is that the amount of gas in the tanks is irrelevant, since neither of us is going to run out of gas.

Even worse is to ingest this stuff before you run. When you give yourself an injection of sugar before beginning an exercise, the pancreas will secrete insulin to lower, or restore blood sugar levels. Why would you want that to happen at the start of your exercise? Best is to leave that stuff alone until you get into very long distance runs.

5 miles for me today, giving me just 27 for the week. Next week it's back to normal.

Rooting for KS' wife today. Temps are perfect in Ft. Worth for her marathon, but unfortunately the wind is brutal today. Spareribs

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

fred-urie — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:16:59 GMT

Friday

AM 40 minute warmup, 10 min. @ steady state, 10 min. @ tempo to VO2max. No puke, KS.

Basketball - 2 hours and 20 minutes.

Saturday - 60 min. super slow

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

Imgellin — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:01:48 GMT

I ran 9.3 miles today. 50 degree weather did not hurt. About a 30 mph wind. My hip flexors were typically tight, and I am not sure what to do about that. I might have to double my reps of hip-stretching exercises. I am running the Quonset Point Ten Miler on sunday, and it is supposed to be cold and very wet. Hey, as long as i do not have to run in scuba tanks and flippers and weight belt, then all the rain is just like water off a duck's back.

Oh, I tried gel for the first time today. I had heard you are supposed to take it with water, so I took it at the beginning of my run. i don't know what I expected, but it seems I had a good amount of energy during the run. It was Karb-Boom Apple Cinnamon.

Lauren, it'd be nice if you could find some wild herbs on your trip to put in that super pasta!

Paul

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

Spareribs823 — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:45:51 GMT

I know Simon from RA. Welcome here Simon.

Really enjoying Sierra's posts, as I do Euphoric's too. Both of you are fine athletes and have a great attitude toward fitness and racing.

This is a planned cutback week for me, but unlike KS who had a mileage target, I had determined to run as I felt like, when I felt like it. Work was very tough this week and I missed two days, breaking my streak of consecutive days from Jan. 8th. Nothing like fred or KS however. So instead of 40 miles this week it will be about 28. I ran 5 today, 3 slow, 2 easy. Feeling good.

One key thing about mental toughness is that you have to pick your spots when to be mentally tough. You cannot kill through every workout or you'll get hurt.

Fred, I was in that same Falmouth race as Alberto Salazar. He hit the finish when I was at about the 5 mile mark!

Good news on Tigger's recovery.

KS, my wife has also developed as a runner. She is in the 50-54 AG and will run the White Rock spring half-marathon in 2 weeks. Her previous best at this distance was 2:16, but she is doing much better now. I am running it with her to pace her and expect her to be under 2:10 with ease. Your wife is doing very well and I wish her a great race tomorrow. Spareribs

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

SierraLauren — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:28:14 GMT

Good luck on the 17 KS~~-50 mph winds would be very tough to run in~~and the painting job. Since you're running fewer miles this week, it sounds like the job landed in a good week to do it.

No run for me this morning~~I woke up late, and then repacked my stuff for the camping trip. We're going to the same general area as the other trip to keep our dog out of cactus~~-that part of the desert (Inyokern--near the town of Ridgecrest) has no cactus. It has a lot of creosote and sagebrush. This time I'm bringing garlic olive oil for pasta, fresh tomatoes, and parmesan cheese. And, two good bottles of a Merlo/blend. I guess I'll have to run a few miles tomorrow to justify the pasta

Have a good weekend everyone.

Also, wecome Simon.

Re: 50 Plus Training and Racing - February

ksrunr — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:38:03 GMT

10 miles this morning in the hills and wind. Tomorrow schedule calls for 17 and the wind is suppose to gust to 50 mph. This week is a cut back week of 15 miles so will have about 73 miles. Now have to go paint bedroom while wife is on the way to FT. Worth to run cowtown. I'd rather run a marathon (or any distance for that matter) than paint.

Have you puked yet Fred?

later