I couldn't post pictures on a comment to your original thread, so thought I would start a new one. It was fun to run into Karen again before the start of the race. I am certain she thought I was crazy!!! The run is also a costume contest, so my 5 person team were dressed as cavemen and women. Of course I had to take the extra step of making it an opportunity for a little MGD 64 product placement, so I had on the wrist bands, had the MGD 64 patch on the front of my top, and an MGD 64 sign on my back side. We had so much fun!!! We even made the Arizona Tribune! [http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/page/slideshowfull/1560/17] But I agree that it was just a deep sand run, with a few obstacles, and a teeny bit of mud at the end. The Camp Pendleton Mud Run info get's posted on Dec 1, and sells out for 2009 in January, so if you are looking for a REAL hard core mud run, THAT is the one to look into. I know I will be!!!