As written on page 1, under "B" of the 2011 "Tournament Eligibility Affidavit"---and on page 16 of the current rulebook.
Quote: "All age and residency eligibility documentation DATED PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 1 WILL BE REQUIRED.........."
IOW----any residency document dated after FEB. 1, 2011 is not acceptable
What I am asking: Who out there understands what prompted LL Inc., to issue that new edict??
My people have been taken aback by not being able to use residency documents dated after Feb. 1st as they have in the past.
Truth be told, they are asking me why the (new) date cut-off restriction---and I don't have an answer for them.
It appears little league persons on this board share the same lack of understanding as I do, as to what prompted Williamsport to come out with the (new) subject date resident proof restriction.
W-Port is trying to slip another one past the "Birthers!"
The "rumor" I heard was that using residency proof prior to February 1 proves residence at the start of the season.
So, if Jimmy didn't have residence at the start of the season but then the family moved within the league boundaries then an electic bill from May or June would show residency, but Jimmy should not have been allowed to play in the league because he didn't meet residency at registration so he should have needed a Waiver.
I'm not saying that's the case, I'm just saying that's what I was told.
I went to ER via email this past weekend, asking what prompted Williamsport to enact the Feb. 1st residency proof cut-off date; and what is/was the problem that "gave birth" to the subject new restriction.
I was advised by ER (this morning) to present my question to Patrick Wilson; Vice-President of Operations---as... "He can better advise me."
I did so this morning!!
So, the Eastern Region doesn't know either !!!
Not that I'm singling out the Eastern Region, I doubt you'd get much of an answer from any of the other Regions either.
This seems like a "Williamsport driven" change.
Lou: Apparently Mr. Wilson chose not to reply to my question via email.
His email reply asked if he could call me via phone.
I replied: (Yes!) and gave him my home phone number.
[Where is Andy Konyar when needed?]
Andy probably might not have been able to help on this one.
Andy was more for the "playing rules" not the admin stuff.
That said, if you asked him a admin question he'd generally find the answer for you.
Heck of a guy.
Let us know how the phone call goes !!!
Andy, of course, was" Umpire-in-Chief" for many years---[ last noted in the 2007 OM]---- and as such was good/qualified with playing rule responses. His title changed to "Umpire Consultant" in the 2008 OM. His name gone in the 2009 OM, and OM years going forward, --due to his retirement.
But he also was a member of the "Charter Committee" for many years--which to a degree-- was involved in administration.
It's noted:---both "umpire" position/titles (above) remain "vacant" since his retirement three(3) years ago.
But nevertheless---as Lou said---he never dodged a question, and never adverse to putting his answers in (email) writing---often with a "splash" of humour!!
If he was in the office, it was not uncommon for a reply to my question(s) to come back to me within 10/15 minutes.
He never, ever, told me to go to regional with my question(s).
He also was a 20/year retired military vet.
I miss the guy!!
P.S. Haven't heard back from Mr. Wilson yet.
Mr. Wilson called me this morning.
I expressed my questions and concerns re the subject cut-off date
He did say something about Williamsport finding out about residential proofs--[in some areas]--being bogus!!
That implementing the Feb. 1st cut-off date was necessary to address that problem. [??????]
I did explain to him at least two scenarios that my people are upset about.
1)---Our leagues (historically) accept registrations dated after Feb. 1st--- Parent/guardians with league/age kids that have relocated/moved into our league's boundaries---after Feb. 1st--March, & some as late as April-will register with resident proofs dated after Feb. 1st---heretofore, not a problem. Now no longer acceptable.
2)--Ongoing, returning and new registrations, for longtime within boundary residents, who supplied residential proofs dated after Feb.1st, 2011---those proofs are no longer acceptable for a player, or players, enrolled on the 2011 T.E.A. [see page 1, under "B"]
Parents/guardians must be asked to submit (again) residential proofs dated before Feb. 1st, 2011 for their 2011 All-Star players.
Mr. Wilson did say, if any person, is so many words---is "not happy" with the new Feb. 1st cut-off date, that person should call him.
He said that more than once during our conversation when I told him my people were questioning the need for that cut-off date---and basically, did not want it or like it.
I understand and agree that the new date could be a problem under scenario #1. I wouldn't turn away a military kid because his parent had to change bases after 2/1.
I don't understand why Scenario 2 is a problem in regards to All-Stars. When my kid is announced on 6/15, I go to my computer and print off copies of my January 2011 gas, cable and property tax bills to take to the parent meeting. We all knew what the new requirement was way in advance, so why would I have even printed documents that were dated after 2/1?
Your point about scenario #2 is well taken.
Scenario # 1----if a parent/guardian is impacted, would probably require a waiver to accept new address proofs for resident relocation moves made after Feb. 1st.
However, good bad or indifferent-----those after Feb. 1st, 2011 residency proofs were used at local league registrations as they were (legally) for many years.
Yes----I personally reminded all concerned at a District meeting of the new cut-off date----but, "habit" trumped the new policy, and those after Feb. 1st resident proofs slipped thru. Humans being humans!!
The "crap" hit the fan when all read page one(1) ---under "B"-----of the 2011 T.E.A.----at our last meeting.
The necessity for the Feb. 1st cut-off date--at least locally---is still being questioned.
Believe others on this board also question its need.
Well, I'd do what he says!
That is, if anyone complains about the Feb 1 date or wants to know why it's now a new rule, I'd give them Pat's Number and tell them to call him.
That's what he said you should do, so take him up on his offer !!!
In fact, I guess that's what everyone who is not happy with the Feb 1st cut-off date should do, call Pat Wilson in Williamsport.
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