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44 Replies Last post: Mar 8, 2008 6:39 AM by Jacques Le Strappe   Go to original post 1 2 3 Previous Next
Click to view CMJHawk86's profile Legend 462 posts since
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30. May 18, 2006 2:43 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
quote:<HR>Originally posted by brianmcg123:
Wow, 90 hole minutes.

Uh, the average length of a TDF stage is over 5hrs. Try again.

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Oh please. Back when I was a full-time track runner in HS I had the same snobbish attitude about soccer, that is until the soccer guys started coming out for track in the winter season and pushing me hard in the 800 and 1600. I actually used to wonder if there was something wrong with my conditioning. Only when I picked up soccer in later years as an adult did I realize what it does for fitness.

BTW at age 42 I still play soccer and run. I find the two sports to be quite complementary.
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31. May 19, 2006 9:08 AM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
quote:<HR>Originally posted by CMJHawk86:
Oh please. Back when I was a full-time track runner in HS I had the same snobbish attitude about soccer, that is until the soccer guys started coming out for track in the winter season and pushing me hard in the 800 and 1600. I actually used to wonder if there was something wrong with my conditioning. Only when I picked up soccer in later years as an adult did I realize what it does for fitness.

BTW at age 42 I still play soccer and run. I find the two sports to be quite complementary.
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Well, the topic of conversation was what requires more fitness. The fact that many people had alread put out elite cross country skiers and cyclists as the people with the highest fitness levels, soccer players aren't even close at the elite level.

I have no doubt that a soccer player can run 800 or 1600 yards. But I can assure you the best soccer player in the world wouldn't be able to complete a Tour De France.
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32. May 19, 2006 2:00 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
surfing!

try paddling your board after being pounded by a set of big waves!

gotta have top notch lungs

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33. May 19, 2006 2:06 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
I have gone mountain climbing with my dh and I would have to say that takes more fitness than running.
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34. May 23, 2006 1:32 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
it all depends on what you're used to. do you do a lot of physical work in your job?

i find that bicycling for about 40 minutes is far more difficult than running, in general.
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35. May 23, 2006 1:50 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
I'd say swimming freestyle. It's so hard to not be able to breathe whenever I want! I can do a half marathon, but I am pooped after about 5 laps of freestyle in the pool :-).
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36. May 23, 2006 6:58 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
Definitely swimming; one lap and I'm done. That's the reason I could never do a triathalon.
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37. May 23, 2006 9:27 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
getting blue balls from ya know...
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38. May 26, 2006 4:40 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
if you're serious about the sport..nothings harder than running.
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39. May 26, 2006 6:08 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
This thread belongs in the CH
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40. May 26, 2006 9:40 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
no matter how hard you run, there's always a faster time to beat, so i say nothing is harder than running.
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41. Feb 27, 2008 12:14 PM in response to: TheMountaineer
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
I could imagine that cross country skiing would be more of a challenge. I do Kickbox, and although that is quite a workout, I still get a better overall workout running.
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42. Mar 7, 2008 8:43 PM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
Boxing !!

Real boxing, not boxercise.

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43. Mar 7, 2008 9:51 PM in response to: paigupaigu
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?
I think swimming may be difficult for you because you're not conditioned for it. Running a lot only makes you a better runner. When you try a different sport, you'll find that you're out of shape for that sport.

Take me for example. Last summer I ran 45 - 55 minutes per day, 6 days a week for 2 months. I thought that this would whip me into shape. But I was wrong, very, very wrong. In early September, I went to hockey try outs and I was the crappiest, most out of shape, weakest, coughing up a lung, ready to vomit, sorry excuse for a player. When I skated 1 length of the ice, I was done, I mean really done. All the drills with stops and starts killed me and I was stiff as a board after (I could hardly walk).

What I learned is that I lacked "Hockey Players Strength" that comes from playing lots of hockey. When you run a lot, you become efficient at running and in my case it actually made my game worse. It slowed my footwork down and my performance suffered. I was surprised that I made the team.


Running does keep your cardiovascular endurance up but you need to do more than run to be really fit. If you want to compete in a triathlon, you need to train for a triathlon. Meaning, you need to build up your swimming endurance as beginners do.

Overall to be really fit I think you need to do cardio (running), strength train, have flexibility and perform some type of skilled sport that pushes your limits.

Click to view Jacques Le Strappe's profile Pro 62 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
44. Mar 8, 2008 6:39 AM in response to: Funny Bone
Re: what's harder than running? what requires more fitness?

If you base fitness on VO2 max then nordic skiers have the highest of all sports. In that case Fred is correct.

The last poster raises an important point about specificity. Fitness for what? In order to be fit for a particular sport you may not be optimally fit for another.