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  • runsinmiddleofnowhere Amateur 36 posts since
    Feb 15, 2009

    Perseuspowers, I also use visualization when I'm running and many times put myself on my favorite No. CA beach where I spent years running in the 90s....last summer I went back and had daily runs again on that beach and it doesn't get any better than that...I too am looking forward to relocating in a few years back to the beach, if not in that city then further north on the Oregon's all beautiiful...


    Spring into Action 5k, 3-20-11, Sparks, NV

    Rock 'n River Marathon, 10k, 5-1-11, Reno, NV

    Paiute Meadows 8k Trail Run, 5-21-11, Susanville, CA

    Bizz Johnson 10k, 10-9-11, Susanville, CA

    Right now just run for the 'zen' of it.....

  • pkar Pro 66 posts since
    Feb 21, 2011

    Hi Just- - -


    Even if you finally get to where it is inadvisable to run, you can always try walking. On my last two 5Ks, I didn't do any running at all - just made my feet go as fast as I could. I really surprised myself that I bettered my previous times where I "cheated" and did a little running. At the end of these events, I wasn't even aware of my bumb knee.


    There are a lot of tips and links in this web site on fast walking - even if you don't want to actually do race walking. I've ordered a book on fast walking. After it arrives, I'll put up a little review of it.

    Phyllis - 87

    San Jose CA

    Aug 18, 2010 Started walking/running In my Neighborhood, SJ CA 1 mi 26:08 min

    My First Race

    Nov 14,2010 Habitat for Humanity, Stanford, Ca 5K 56:08 min 3rd Women’s 70+

    2012 Events:

    1/1/12 New Years Runfor Healthy World Palo Alto 5K 46:33

    1/28/12 Coyote Hills, Fremont CA 5K 52:59

    3/3/12 Helyer Park, San Jose 5K 46:47

    3/10/12 Juana Run Palo alto 8K 1:12:22

    3/11/12 Calif. Senior Games Palo Alto Race Walk 5K 44:56 Qualified in my age group for Nationals in 2013

    3/17/12 Go Green St Patricks Day Run 5K 31:27 Actual distance run: 2.22 miles

  • Jasmine1972 Legend 923 posts since
    Sep 24, 2009

    I really depend upon my music when I run, even though I use the same playlist over and over again. Maybe its my "mantra".  Sometimes if I find that my iPod is dead, I consider not biking or running until it gets charged.  I actually had to buy an extra iPod AND get both replaced because I kept having issues with them. All I know is that the music in the background helps to reduce the mind chatter - even if I don't "listen" to the songs anymore.


    The other thing I do is count (1 per 4 steps) to 100 over and over. For me, it is about 600 counts per mile, so even if I don't have a GPS, I know about how far I am within a mile. I also use the count to time my speed intervals & rest (40/60), and, when I get tired and wore-out, I use the count (instead of my watch) to time my run/walk intervals (80/20).


    Of course, there are some local races that don't allow headphones, so it is my counting that keeps me going in the race, and it becomes my "mantra".


    Anyway, don't give up on your training - I know how hard it is to be persistant, but YOU CAN DO IT!

    Jo Ann C

    Started Walking 7/15/09 Weight = 265#; C25K Grad 11/6/09

    8/30/09 5K (62:42) 262# 10/2/10 5K (37:44) 206# 3/26/11 5K (36:42) PR 202#

    6/19/10 10K (83:47) 208# 3/6/11 UAH 10K (79:18) 200#

    6/27/10 IronGirl, Atlanta Tri S 1/3m/B 18m/R 3m (2:42:10) 207#; 5/15/11 - (2:34:08 200)#

    9/25/10 Women's HM, Nashville (3:27:10) 209#, 11/13/10 Huntsville HM (3:17:27) 203#

    2/13/11 Mercedes HM, B'ham (3:02:02) 203#; 3/19/11 Rocket 10mi (2:13:37) PR

    4/30/11 RnR HM Nashville (3:10:12); 5/15/11 5/30/11 Cotton Row 10K (84:36) ;

    6/11/11 Mt. Mania 15K (2:17:12); 7/16/11 Wet Dog Tri (98:56);

    8/13/11 Mtn Lakes Tri; (2:13:32); 8/28 Rocketman Oly Tri; 9/10 Frantic Frog Tri (1:52:35)

    9/24/11 Womens HM (2:54:28) 195# PR; 10/1 Toray 5K (35:35 PR);

    10/15/11 Liz Hurley 5K (36:24); 10/22 Book-it 10K (74:51 PR) 197#;
    11/12/11 Huntsville HM - Target 2:50

  • jgarofalo54 Rookie 7 posts since
    Aug 24, 2011

    Jasmine 1972,

    Thanks for all your suggestions. I do play my ipod. I have several play lists, but use one in particular when I run. That doesn't always work though. I like the idea of counting 1 per 4 steps. You really have to focus on counting and you can't attend to anything else. I have been wearing a pedomiter and periodically looking at it to see how far I have run, but if I can count and use the pedomiter the first time I try to count I'll be able to get at an approximate number like your 600 per mile.  So far the only run I have done that I couldn't wear my headphones is called "Girls on the Run". I had a student as my partner.  Thanks again. I will try counting tomorrow... One thing I am is persistant:)

  • jgarofalo54 Rookie 7 posts since
    Aug 24, 2011


    Thanks for your suggestions. I do use headphones but they don't always do the trick. I have never heard of "Chi Running". I'll have to do some research. Jasmine 1972 suggested counting as well. I'm going to try that tomorrow. I am easily distracted and my thoughts wonder sometimes from one thing to the next even when I am focused on something. I know I feel better and I breath better when I have a focus, focus, focus..............  Thanks again:)

  • ChipperT Pro 101 posts since
    Apr 24, 2009
    jg, I know exactly what you mean.  Sometimes I have an entire committee up there between my ears telling me lots of reasons to stop running.  For me it is usually the first mile or so and then they shut up.  Guess by now they have learned that if I am not going to stop within the first mile, I am just not going to stop!  (And everyone is right - runners ARE crazy!).  I find that when I am running with someone else, no voices.  I will also distract myself by paying close attention to my cadence and breathing step 1 - breathe in, step 3 breathe out.  Surprisingly that not only shuts up my brain, but gets me on track to run longer!  Anyway, you might try finding a running buddy.

    "What distinguishes those of us at the starting line from those of us on the couch is that we learn through running to take what the days gives us, what our body will allow us, and what our will can tolerate." - John Bingham

    C25K Graduation Run - 6/6/10 - 38:18
    Crimestoppers 5K - 8/1/10 - 33:15
    Goldfish Grab 5K - 8/13/10 - 31:51
    Demolay 5K - 10/16/10 - 29:39! (broke 10mm)
    Black Cat 5 Mile - 10/23/10 - 50:32
    Turn Back The Clock 10K - 11/07/2010 - 1:05:22 (first 10K!)
    Turkey Trot 5K - 11/25/10 - 32:58
    Santa Run 10K Relay - 12/18/10 - 1:01:34 / my leg: 30:13:57
    Jingle Bell 5K Fun Run - 12/24/10 - 29:16:34
    Run For the Heroes 10K - 1/1/11 - 1:05:13
    Geoduck Gallop 10K - 1/30/11 - 59:27:47 (Personal Best)
    Titlow Park Mud Run 5K - 3/30/11 - 30:38:00
    Sound to Narrows 12K - 06/11/11 - 1:20:35
    City Blast 10K- 07/04//11 - 1:03:11
    Enumclaw Street Fair 5K - 07/23/2011 - 28:39:11

    Tacoma Narrows 1/2 Marathon - 08/06/11 - 2:28:01 (first 1/2 Marathon!)

    Parkland Race or Pace 5K - 09/03/11 - 28:11:59 (Personal best)

    Run Wild 8K at Northwest Trek - 10/08/11 - 50:13 (Personal best)

    Black Cat 5 Mile - 10/22/11 - 50:23

    Turn Back The Clock 10K - 11/06/11 - 1:00:28
    Lynch Creek 5K - 4/07/2012 - 32:38:60

    Upcoming Races

  • urun2me Pro 194 posts since
    Jun 7, 2010

    Ah, we're talking about "the Voices" again


    I used to have a horrible problem with those voices, especially during my first year of real running. I always ran with music or music podcasts. They seemed to help quite a bit. When my Nano stopped working, I had to decide if I was going to buy a new one, go back to running with my phone on my arm, or learn to run without music (horrors!). For a while I used my phone, but I really didn't like the phone sliding down my arm (the band had stretched out and my arm had shrunk). So I started playing little tricks. I counted steps. I sang songs in my head. I repeated a mantra. Eventually, I relaxed and started to look at the wildlife around me (I counted different kinds of animals or birds), study the other people on the trail, listen to my breathing, or just try to really be present in my surroundings during my runs. Now I tend to use my time out on the road/trail thinking - about life, how to solve personal issues, what I'm going to make for dinner, what I'm going to do about my hair, even how my feet feel hitting the ground. When the little voices creep back in, and they do, I tell them, "no, not going to listen to that, keep moving."


    Do whatever works for you to keep those voices from taking anything away from your wonderful time running.

  • oldohioron Pro 113 posts since
    Jun 11, 2011

    Hip Flexor


    Earlier this week I got a very tight hip flexor. For a couple of days I did almost nothing except rest and ice. Now I am starting to stretch and do some walking. I can get to the point were I feel almost normal with the stretching. But I don't dare change directions or stop and start quickly. The other thing is the first time I put weight on the leg there is a sharp pain, but it goes away mostly after about two steps. I can lessen the pain if I apply weight slowly. Most of what I find on the Internet mentions ice and stretching. Does anyone have any suggestions beyond this?


    On the positive side my wife has almost fully recovered from her heal pain and is planning to do her first 20 minute run Saturday.



    Age 65

    Started C25K June 6, 2011

    Completed C25K August 6, 2011

    Lions Club 5K August 13, 2011........................... 25:54

    Sole to Soul 5k March 31, 2012.......................... 23:52

    Home Run for the Homeless April 28, 2012 ..........24:15

    May in Bay May 26, 2012................................... 22:43 1st in AG

    Fat Little 5k June 16, 2012.................................. 22:39.6

    Lions Club 5k August 11, 2012............................ 21:51 1st in AG PR

    North Coast Challenge Sept 1, 2012.................... 40:30 PR

  • pkar Pro 66 posts since
    Feb 21, 2011

    Ooops, On my last post,I forgot to put in the link to the walking web site:



    It isn't just about race walking, it has good information about just plain walking - fast or slow. Check out the various links. This information is particularly good for those of us who have creaky joints that we are waiting to get well - or whose creaky joints will never get better, but are good for many more miles if we pamper them. What walking has over running is there is a lot less pounding on the knees.


    I don't listen to music, count steps, or recite mantras. I like to enjoy the scenery and just think thoughts. If I begin to flag, I tell myself that if I don't step it up, I'll miss the train - the train that will take me to the payroll office where my check is waiting.



    Phyllis - 87

    San Jose CA

    Aug 18, 2010 Started walking/running In my Neighborhood, SJ CA 1 mi 26:08 min

    My First Race

    Nov 14,2010 Habitat for Humanity, Stanford, Ca 5K 56:08 min 3rd Women’s 70+

    2012 Events:

    1/1/12 New Years Runfor Healthy World Palo Alto 5K 46:33

    1/28/12 Coyote Hills, Fremont CA 5K 52:59

    3/3/12 Helyer Park, San Jose 5K 46:47

    3/10/12 Juana Run Palo alto 8K 1:12:22

    3/11/12 Calif. Senior Games Palo Alto Race Walk 5K 44:56 Qualified in my age group for Nationals in 2013

    3/17/12 Go Green St Patricks Day Run 5K 31:27 Actual distance run: 2.22 miles

  • Joe_Sullivan Rookie 4 posts since
    Mar 22, 2011

    Been lurking for a few weeks but had to jump in....I call my voices the 'quit monkey' in "The quit monkey just jumped on my back".  I'm having a lot more problems fighting the QM now that I'm older. In my 30's it were there but I rarely surrendered on a run. Now, it's a 50/50 proposition .... once the quit monkey really starts working on me. It helps me to conjure up an external motivation to push through the suffering....have a runner (or even a walker) on the trail ahead of me to catch helps.


    The running gods of motivation were really smiled on me today! About one minute from my turnaround I passed a runner going the other way (forest preserve trail). I could tell he was catchable and sure enough he was in my sights about 2 miles from my finish. The best part was when he felt me coming up on him....he picked up the pace and tried to run away from me! Every time I came up on his shoulder he put in a little kick to keep ahead. I had never had this happen on a training run before....all the sudden I was in 'race' mode.  I knew a little hill was coming up so I figured that's where I would put this guy out of his misery. But he pushed it up the hill to the trail head (just at the top) and stopped before I could get by him....I had to give him a 'thumbs up' as I went by to finish off my run.


    The quit monkey was nowhere in sight today.

    Age: 52

    (2010 - Started Spinning - Started Running - Lost 30lbs)

    2011 Race Results:

    07/21 - Sundowners 5K (Joliet) - 25:10

    09/29 - ANL Division Championship (3.3mile) - 23:48

    10/16 - Hinsdale Rotary 10K - 46:48

    10/23 - New Lenox Pant for the Pantry 5k - 21:43

    01/08/12 - WDW Half Marathon - 1:45:31

    Upcoming Races:

  • jgarofalo54 Rookie 7 posts since
    Aug 24, 2011

    Chipper T, thanks for the suggestions. It's so frustrating trying to clear my head and find a focus. I like running to music but it doesn't always work. I will try to pay more attention to my breathing. Focusing on that may help my rythm.  I have not run with a buddy yet, I'll give that a try. Finding someone who runs at my pace may be difficult. My daughter and son in law both run, but they are faster than me:) Thanks again.

  • schizoidman Amateur 11 posts since
    Oct 22, 2009

    I started running in 2009. I am now 55. I was inspired by a book, "Younger Next Year". This book advocates getting at least 40 minutes of cardio exercise at least 6 days a week. It works for me. I have lost 60 pounds and have gone from having difficulty running 1 mile to completing my first marathon in January. I even qualified for the Boston Marathon and plan to run it next year. For me, consistancy is the key. I plan to exercise every day. When I miss a day, I feel like I missed out. I almost never go 2 days in succession without a workout. I also do sprint triathlons. Sprint triathlons usually include a 5k run along with a 12-14 mile bike ride and 400-500 meter swim. They are a lot of fun (although I am a terrible swimmer). Doing 3 different events helps balance your fitness since you use difference muscles. A little resistance training helps a lot too; twice a week, light weights, high reps.

  • MelissaGraham7 Legend 315 posts since
    Nov 2, 2010

    A little over a year ago, when I started incorporating little bursts of jogging into my running, I never thought I'd think of myself as a runner.    Today, I just completed my first 11-mile jog/run and it was awesome.   The air is quite deliciously clean after hurricane Irene swept it free of all dust, pollen, exhaust, and humidity, so it was just the perfect morning.  I love it when that everything clicks!  I didn't break any speed records, but I stayed moving for 11 miles and that counts! 

    "Run when you can, walk when you have to, crawl if you must; just never give up!" Dean Karnazes

    Equinoxalizer 5K 3/19/2011: Time 37:13; 2nd place in age group!

    Dogwood 5K April 29, 2011: Time 36:15

    Running of the Bulls 8K 6/18/2011: Time: 61 minutes 15 seconds

    Mebane on the Move 10K 09/10/2011: Time 75 minutes 16 seconds; 1st in age group (oldest woman running!)

    Valentine's Massacre Marathon Relay 2/12/2012: Team distance 26.2 my pace 12:02 my distance 8 miles

    Fleet Feet 4-mile in Chapel Hill 4/22/2012: PR for 11:53 pace!! WOOOHOOO!

    Run for the Haw 5K on 5/26/2012: PR for 11:50 pace and First in Age Group! First race in Skele-Toes (minimalist shoes)

    Running of the Bulls 8K 6/02/2012:

    Yellow Brick Road 5-Miler 07/14/2012:

    Keep on running!

  • urun2me Pro 194 posts since
    Jun 7, 2010

    Way to go Melissa! You're going to rock that Half in October. I got up this morning and checked the weather. It was 82 at 6:10! I thought about shortening my planned run because I know how miserable I've felt during and after long, hot runs. I ate my oatmeal, washed it down with ice water and decided to get out and just do what I could do. By relaxing, not worrying about pace and sticking to short running intervals with walk breaks, I made it through all ten miles. I didn't break any speed records either, but I did complete the run and felt pretty good at the end. Now it's time to relax and enjoy the rest of the day. I hope everyone had a great weekend with happy runs and happy families.

  • lindakay228 Legend 201 posts since
    Apr 11, 2010

    I like these suggestions for dealing with the voices in your head.  Sometimes I run with music, sometimes I don't want music.  Sometimes I've pictured myself in a race I've run and the cheering crowds along the way and imagine friends of mine cheering me on.  This sometimes works for me.  Even if you haven't already done a run, you can still imagine you are in a run and people are cheering for you.  Since most of my races I've not actually had people I knew along the route, because usually I have to go out of town for races (live in a rural area with not much happening in the running world as far as organized races).  Then I picture some of my online running friends rooting for me.


    I hadn't run in 3 weeks and finally got out and did a little over 2 miles this morning.  I will be so glad when it cools down more because I just don't tolerate the heat well.  I do so much better in fall, winter, and spring.  But at least I got out this morning and really want to start getting out and doing it 3 times a week again.  So that means I have to make it a point to get out between 5:30 and 6 am to do it.


    I haven't posted much but always enjoy reading.

    Whole Enchilada 5k, Las Cruces NM 9-26-10 43:32

    All Souls Trail Race, Silver City NM 10-30-10 45:55

    Global Health 5k Run/Walk, Albuquerque NM 11-6-10 40:11

    Ultimate Fitness 8th Annual Turkey Trot 5k, Deming NM 11-25-10 38:35

    New Beginnings 5k Jan 23, 2011 Las Cruces, NM 40:20

    Cupid's Chase 5k Feb 12, 2011 Las Cruces, NM 39:54

    Bataan Death March Memorial 15 miles March 27, 2011 White Sands Missil Range, NM 4hrs, 48 min 45 sec

    Fort Bayard Wilderness 5k Trail Race May 28, 2011 40:52

    Ultimate Fitness 9th Annual Turkey Trot, Deming NM 11-24-11 35:14

    Cupid's Chase 5k Feb 11, 2012 Las Cruces NM 38:29


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