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60. Jun 10, 2005 12:30 PM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
No one thinks headphones/ipods are OK while cycling. However, what is the problem during the run? Dangerous? A safety issue? Please... We are triathletes! We should be versatile, strong, and supportive of our fellow athletes. If a little music helps you get through the race..go for it. I am mentally strong enough to "run" my own race whether you choose to use music or not.
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61. Jun 11, 2005 8:46 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
you can't hear what's coming behind you. happens all the time on the bike path runners or roller bladers not heraring me coming up behind them and we almost crash. and it's against the USAT rules sorry! I hope I'm still supportive and friendly but dont' wear 'em during a race
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62. Jun 14, 2005 5:04 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
I totally agree with you. Ipods or any form of musical distraction should be outlawed..I thought the whole point of endurance events is to have superior mental skills. Listening to music makes everything easier and takes a lot of the challenge away by drowning out the sound of the voice in your head telling you to quit. I really think what ever governing body should address this.
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63. Jun 14, 2005 10:11 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
I just completed a Tri in Batavia, IL. M wife noticed an official telling a cyclist to go back to the transition area and take off the headphones. She also noticed an official telling a runner to go back and take off the headphone but the music was so loud she did not hear and kept running!
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64. Jun 14, 2005 1:58 PM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
plain and simple it is dangerous, irresponsible, and against the rules.

i see more and more people training with them---

i shouldnt, but i use one running trail and would not be aware if there were a horse or bike bearing down on me--im sure i shouldnt.....but on streets or in a race...never.
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65. Jun 15, 2005 6:21 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
The only thing more dangerous than headphones on a bike is talking on the cell phone while driving. Sorry, but I had to add that....
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66. Jun 20, 2005 2:41 PM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
Count me in on the anti-headphones side for both the bike and the run. It's too dangerous, whether you're going at 8 mph or 20 mph.

On the bike, there's the obvious danger of collisions. On the run, as someone else pointed out, the headphones gives runners too much of a sense of isolation, and officials can't stop or warn them.

I live in a big city with a well-used park, and I've had enough close encounters courtesy of headphones on bikers, runners, and rollerbladers to convince me of their danger -- as fun and energizing as they are.
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67. Jun 22, 2005 8:39 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
Unless you are talking about Olympic or Professional competition then I think there is no basis for concern related to using music during a race. I listen to music when I run in a lot of local 5k and 10k races and I don't think any race should ban the devices. It isn't some type of drug enhancing product. Why don't we start testing for coffee and red bull before races to because they give an unfair advantage with all the caffeine? If you are a high level athlete, competing for $$$ and recognition then by all means you have a right to gripe about this. If you are a weekend warrior or a good athlete that competes in a lot of races for the competition then be quiet and find your own motivation, your whining is distracting me from my music!
Click to view Joe_H1's profile Community Moderator 1,041 posts since
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68. Jun 22, 2005 10:50 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
actually I believe above a certain level caffeine is illegal. but it's supposed to be you VS. the road not you and Coldplay VS. the road. and it is a safety thing - runner not hearing what is happening behind them and gets into trouble.
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69. Jun 22, 2005 2:06 PM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
I don't think it is cheating at all, people talk about safety, I train with an mp3 player when I run and bike I am not on a closed course that is monitored but on the street with idiot drivers. If you think other people have an unfair advantage nothing in the rules saying only some people can have them, I don't think it is any different from competitors having better equipment or clothing than another.
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70. Jun 23, 2005 5:48 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
it's against USAT rules:
http://www.usatriathlon.org/Rules_Officials/rules.htm#6.3

a lot of running races I've seen have a note in the application not allowing headphones or baby strollers but maybe it's my region of the US
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71. Jun 23, 2005 10:14 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
To Joe_H1 and tynanc:

Caffeine is a substance banned by USADA at high levels (of course, sutafed is also banned). I think the legal limit is around the equivalent of 4-6 cups of coffee.
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72. Jun 23, 2005 12:04 PM in response to: suzetri
caffeine is legal again
just saw this today "Caffeine, an ingredient in coffee and cola, was removed from the World Anti-Doping Agency list of banned substances in January 2004. WADA, however, continues to monitor the use of caffeine" from this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8321829/

yippee I can go back my six cups of coffee for my race day breakfast ;)
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73. Jun 26, 2005 1:12 PM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
I think, if you don't like using musical devices you shouldn't use one. If others like them, let them be. I've set to see a race catastrophe from someone listening to music. Personally, I wouldn't do it but I do like the training runs with my iPod. I know that USAT rules specifically say that their not allowed. However, if someone isn't in contention for a podium finish I think the officials look the other way.
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74. Jun 27, 2005 8:14 AM in response to: suzetri
Re: IPOD'S & Headphones during race
I'm definitely in the "don't do it during bike races but why the heck not during running races" camp. Those who say we shouldn't do it because the Olympians don't do it are being naive, in my opinion. If Olympians are your example, then I assume you think steroids are okay to use? Obviously I am not saying that all Olympians are steroid users, but recently there has been an alarming number of them, especially in track and field. Not necessarily the greatest example.

And why are we saying that you are totally responsible for knowing what is going on behind you? Last I heard, whether you're on a bike or in a car, it is primarily the responsibility of the person in back to avoid hitting the person in front. You rear end another car, YOU get the ticket, almost always. Granted, the person in front should take reasonable precautions, but the person in back obviously has a better view of the whole situation and therefore has a better chance of avoiding accidents.

As a runner (especially a slow one) I stay to the right and check around me if I'm going to take a walk break or something. That's just what you're supposed to do, and it makes no difference if I'm wearing headphones or not. I run on paved paths that are shared with cyclists. I often can't hear them coming, regardless of whether my music is on or not. A nice "on your left" given with enough warning to let me make sure I'm out of the way is great, but sadly doesn't happen all the time.

I am a midpacker at best, and thus harbor no illusions that I might even place in my age group, much less overall. I'm out there because it is fun for me, great exercise, and I'm just a bit of a ***** for finisher's medallions and event t-shirts. :-) I'm happy if I can pass a few people and they don't pass me back right before the finish line. Someone who can finish in the top 5 is WAY beyond the point where headphones have anything to do with it. More power to them, I say.

Amy