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8 Replies Last post: Mar 24, 2006 11:15 PM by milkbaby004  
Click to view Cynthia Blue's profile Amateur 24 posts since
May 28, 2004
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Mar 24, 2006 10:55 AM

Body Fat and Gender

Long story short... accidentally reset my Tanita Scale the other day to Male from Female (I'm Female). At Female, it tells me my percent body fat is around 30.5%. But when I was male, it told me 20%.

Isn't a body a body, and shouldn't it be able to determine an accurate percentage of body fat regardless?

I like the male better. I really think at 30% it's measuring me high. I'm 5'7'' and 151 pounds. Yes I would like to get down 10 more, but I lift weights and I run so I'm pretty physicall fit. I do have some extra pounds though but I'm working on those and they are coming off.

Anyway, I thought I'd ask here about this because it just seems odd. I'm going to go up to my local University end of April and get a good accurate test using a Bod Pod and see what it tells me. I'm afraid if I go to a gym they will also measure me high so that I'll sign up, and I don't want to sign up.
Click to view runnerparris's profile Legend 365 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
1. Mar 24, 2006 11:25 AM in response to: Cynthia Blue
Re: Body Fat and Gender
I don't have much faith in those scales. I don't think they are accurate. It seem they work more by simply giving an answer to a mathamatical equation rather than actually measuring the body fat using impedence or whatever it is they are supposed to do.

I have a body fat scale, and although it probably isn't accurate, it is consistant. However, so is a regular scale for that matter. The gyms often use those hand held body fat things and they pretty much work the same as the scales. I think Underwater weighing and dexa scans are the only real accurate methods.
Click to view bigapplepie's profile We're Not Worthy 2,636 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Mar 24, 2006 11:30 AM in response to: Cynthia Blue
Re: Body Fat and Gender
Women have a different body composition to men.

Try changing to male athlete if you want your bf to look low.

Those scales are not accurate. Follow the instructions very carefully to get a reading within 2 or 3% of your actual bf%.
Click to view TiffMull's profile Rookie 1 posts since
May 20, 2005
3. Mar 24, 2006 11:58 AM in response to: Cynthia Blue
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I had the same issue, I'm 5'6" and anywhere btwn 140-145 depending on the day, and mine told me that I was anywhere btwn 27% and 32% over a four day span. I have some tummy fat that I could stand to lose, but it's surprising when you're not overweight, running 35mpw and told you have 30% BF! Totally possible, but surprising. Anyway, I would take what it tells you with a grain of salt, but I've notice that I've gotten the most consistent numbers when weighing myself right out of the shower. Apparently wet feet helps with the bioelectrical impedance (or so says the manual that came with the scale)...I've gotten the same number, 27.5%, which seems a little more realistic given what my body looks like. Granted mostly the lower number makes me feel better, but I genuinely think that that number is closer to accurate, given what I look like and my activity level. But like bigapplepie said, you have to follow the directions really carefully to get anything resembling accurate.

Just my opinion, FWIW...hope that helps!
Click to view Swampy13's profile Expert 58 posts since
Oct 31, 2005
4. Mar 24, 2006 11:58 AM in response to: Cynthia Blue
Re: Body Fat and Gender
I've lost and gained 6-8% bodyfat in 30 seconds based on those electronic impedance scales. We all know weight can be misleading, but I think that bodyfat percentage can sometimes be even more misleading, at least in terms of measuring it. I've been tested by calipers as well, and my bodydat was 3-4% higher when I was hydrated. Most people like the hydrostatic method, but I've never tried that.

Sometimes I wonder if eventually there will be a chart based on how you look and feel about yourself....
Click to view bigapplepie's profile We're Not Worthy 2,636 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
6. Mar 24, 2006 2:07 PM in response to: Cynthia Blue
Re: Body Fat and Gender
Step One - When to take a reading

BIA depends on your body's hydration (water) level, which along with your weight will fluctuate naturally throughout the day. You will probably get different readings from your Tanita Monitor if you take measurements at different times of the day.

Consistency is the key when taking your readings. The best time is in the early evening, before your meal. This is when your hydration level will be more stable.

Avoid taking readings after you've woken up in the morning. Not only will you be dehydrated, but also the majority of fluid in your body will be stored in the central trunk area. As the day progresses, the fluid becomes more evenly distributed through the limbs, increasing the accuracy of the readings.

Other factors which can affect your hydration level and the accuracy of the readings include:

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Temperature
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The amount of exercise you've taken
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Menstruation
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Medical conditions and medications
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Alcohol
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Caffeine
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Bathing patterns


SO REMEMBER

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Take your readings at the same time and under the same conditions every day.
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Look for the long-term trend - body fat levels change slowly over time.
Click to view cyall's profile Rookie 2 posts since
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7. Dec 21, 2007 4:58 PM in response to: Cynthia Blue
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If I had to guess I would say that the scale can only send an electrical impulse through the tissue directly between the electrodes. That is, it is likely guessing at the body fat percentages above your waist, and it has some sort of compensation for the typical differences between men and women. Thus, different readings for the same person on the two settings. Anything one does to change the electrical impedence in his body will change the reading. Which explains the differences between readings at different hydration levels and with we vs dry feet. Of course, I have to admit that all this is speculation.

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Click to view milkbaby004's profile Legend 464 posts since
Jul 28, 2003
8. Dec 21, 2007 4:58 PM in response to: Cynthia Blue
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When somebody uses the calipers to measure bodyfat, it also requires taking into account whether you are male or female as well. Since men and women are different, the calculated body fat % is based on the "average" male or female.

Even the hydrostatic and air-displacement (bod-pod) methods of measuring body fat are subject to error. For example, if you do not properly expel the air from your lungs, the hydrostatic measurement will not be accurate. It also is based on the "average" male and female. I believe they read your body fat % off a chart based on body density -- the hydrostatic measurement measures the volume of space your body takes up -- and that is also dependent on sex.

EDIT: Just googled this page that has a very good explanation of the different methods of measuring body fat:
http://exercise.about.com/cs/weightloss/a/bodyfat.htm[/URL" target="_blank">

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