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Click to view daveo6's profile Rookie 1 posts since
May 6, 2006

May 13, 2006 1:57 PM

70:20:10:diet ratio

70% unsaturated fats, 20% carbohydrates, 10% protein. who has any view's on this type of diet which i saw browsing one day recently.
After fat has been assimilatrd by the body the waste by products are carbon dioxide and water (easy to get rid of!!).
carbs by product is lactic acid (sounds bad news!!)
protein mmm not sure
any comments would be helpful
Click to view Ice Cream's profile Legend 602 posts since
Dec 28, 2003
1. May 13, 2006 9:21 PM in response to: daveo6
Go for it and let us know!
Click to view Knight0053's profile Amateur 8 posts since
May 12, 2006
2. May 14, 2006 4:13 AM in response to: daveo6
You might want to check out Dr. Tim Noakes' "Lore of Running" if you're interested in the physiology. Truly an excellent read / resource.

Cheers,
Knight
Click to view nadra24053's profile Pro 74 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
3. May 15, 2006 1:03 AM in response to: daveo6
Lactic acid is only a byproduct of carbohydrate metabolism under anaerobic conditions. (not enough oxygen). Under aerobic conditions (which is most of the time), water and carbon dioxide are the byproducts of carbohydrate metabolism.

The most important question, though (to me anyway) is what in the world are you going to eat with a diet like that? I'm guessing mostly nuts, but I'd be really interested to see a menu.
Click to view CSuzette's profile Legend 290 posts since
Apr 8, 2005
4. May 15, 2006 9:11 AM in response to: daveo6
quote:<HR>Originally posted by daveo6:
70% unsaturated fats, 20% carbohydrates, 10% protein. who has any view's on this type of diet which i saw browsing one day recently.
After fat has been assimilatrd by the body the waste by products are carbon dioxide and water (easy to get rid of!!).
carbs by product is lactic acid (sounds bad news!!)
protein mmm not sure
any comments would be helpful
<HR>


Interesting. What I have usually seen in 70 -Fat/20-Pro/10-CHO. My current diet is about 80-Fat/20-protein. And, I do agree that the by-product of both anaerobic and glycogen fueling aerobic exercise is lactic acid.

I was looking at my Coe running book and getting rid of most of it...but I saved pages approximatley 55-75. That's the part that talks about aerobic vs anaerobic and fat burning vs. glucose burning energy. I finally found the formulas that I was looking for that clearly shows that by burning fat you produce more ATP with less oxygen required.

I will try to remember to post it this week.
Click to view bigapplepie's profile We're Not Worthy 2,636 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
5. May 15, 2006 9:39 AM in response to: daveo6
quote:<HR>Originally posted by CSuzette:
I was looking at my Coe running book and getting rid of most of it...but I saved pages approximatley 55-75. That's the part that talks about aerobic vs anaerobic and fat burning vs. glucose burning energy. I finally found the formulas that I was looking for that clearly shows that by burning fat you produce more ATP with less oxygen required.

I will try to remember to post it this week.
<HR>

I think that's common knowledge. However, you don't burn more fat just by eating more fat.

The best way to improve fat to carb burning ratio is to train more.

quote:<HR>
Research conducted at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden during the 1980s showed that, within the leg muscles of highly trained endurance men, the activity of enzymes that break down fats was 100 percent higher than in the untrained subjects. As a result, during exercise they had a much higher ability to regenerate the ATP that fuels muscular contraction than those who had a greater reliance on carbohydrates...

Initially, studies found that high-fat diets, where fats supply 60 percent or more of the calories, showed promise as a means to better endurance. Fat burning is increased on high-fat diets, even at rest. Exercise tests showed higher endurance in subjects who had been eating high-fat diets in comparison with high-carbohydrate diets.

At issue, however, was the intensity of exercise used for the tests. High-fat diets improved endurance at relatively low-intensity levels. When the intensity was increased to mirror race situations, the advantage disappeared. The higher- intensity exercise required more carbohydrate, and the subjects simply lacked adequate glycogen to continue for extended periods. The lesson is that you can reduce your reliance on carbohydrate, but you can't eliminate it. <HR>


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