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Click to view Grizzly039's profile Legend 451 posts since
Nov 1, 2006

Dec 21, 2007 6:44 PM

Are people who enjoy foods a rarity here?

Just curious.

I'm a vegetarian, I eat healthy balanced meals. I don't eat junk food (chips, chocolates etc.), and I rarely have dessert, but when I do I don't go off feeling guilty about it.

I like a good alcoholic beverage once in a while, and yes, I do put salt on my food along with ketchup.

I weigh 60 lbs less than I did on Jan 1 2005, and I only get on the scale every other week or so. I don't count calories, but I also keep a watch on what I eat and ensure that I stay healthy.

People, is it so wrong to LIKE food? I mean I know that there are some people who are vulnerable and are hurting and have self-image problems and Eating Disorders, and I realize that we have to be conscious of their pain and needs...

But food is one of the joys of my life. Cooking it, sharing it with friends, lingering over a meal in quiet conversation, sampling a little something of what my beloved is baking (and getting my fingers slapped), growing stuff in the garden and pickling it, preserving it, (brewing it!).

It isn't for nothing that many religions have a sacramental or symbolic meaning or set of stories around food. Manna from heaven... eucharist (they knew him in the breaking of the bread).

Food is life-giving. I know that it isn't for some, but I'm feeling that it is becoming taboo to even talk about it as something positive in our lives.

http://This message has been edited by Grizzly (edited May-16-2006).
Click to view Iontach's profile Legend 1,522 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. May 16, 2006 6:27 PM in response to: Grizzly039
I like you, Grizzly.

Click to view milkbaby004's profile Legend 464 posts since
Jul 28, 2003
3. May 16, 2006 6:29 PM in response to: Grizzly039
I think a lot of people look at food as "the enemy" when in fact it surely is life-giving and pleasure-giving as you said, Grizzly.

The problem is that most people prefer to look at external causes as the root of their problems instead of realizing that the root of many of our problems are within ourselves. It's much easier to blame something/somebody else rather than to look in the mirror and say that our attitudes and behaviors are at fault -- that we must take responsibility for ourselves and our own happiness. A little philosophical, but that's what I believe.
Click to view merigayle's profile Legend 1,586 posts since
Aug 15, 2007
5. May 16, 2006 6:45 PM in response to: Grizzly039
I love food. I just am smarter about what food i eat and how i eat them now. I am a vegetarian as well and rarely eat junk food. Some of my most favorite food pleasures are sweet potatoes, chocolate sorbet, fruit, dried fruit, frozen fruit pops, and cereal (dry).

The key to losing weight is portion control. Not food avoidance.
Click to view queenjaneapproximately's profile Amateur 15 posts since
Apr 30, 2006
6. May 16, 2006 6:55 PM in response to: Grizzly039
I love food, too, and I hear what you're saying. I believe in trying to eat nutritiously but ENJOYING my food. I like to cook; I like to bake; and yes, I like to eat. I'm teaching my sons to love food, too, and to appreciate different ingredients, flavors, textures, etc. I'm also teaching them that vegetables can be delicious, that running around outside is more fun and more healthy than watching television, and that our bodies feel better when properly fueled. It's a balance thing, I think.

Carrie
Click to view chiedzachiera's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Jan 4, 2006
7. May 16, 2006 7:01 PM in response to: Grizzly039
People (especially runners, in my experience) like routine. I get grumpy if I can't do my long run on the weekend, speedwork on Wednesday, etc., and god forbid I get sick for a week and can't work out.

It is too easy to transfer that personality trait/obsession onto diet as well. Grizzly and Merigayle are right on. I've lost around 30 lbs. in the past year (Weight Watchers) and have been appalled by things I've heard and seen - rigidly counting calories (I have nothing against counting calories) to the point where people don't eat after 2 pm because they've already eaten their quota, refusing to go to social events with friend or family if food will be there, even one woman taking a roll out of the bread basket at a restaurant and wiping it on a dusty windowsill so she wouldn't eat it. That is no way to live life.
Click to view Johnnystella088's profile Amateur 19 posts since
Jul 16, 2004
8. May 16, 2006 7:01 PM in response to: Grizzly039
Americans are as twisted about food as they are about religion. The rest of the world scoffs at us. The trouble with food isn't food per se, it's the marketing, and buying, of totally **** food. Couple that with the shame the diet industry and magazine models perpetuate they foist upon us when we overeat. Watch tv sometime. You'll see an ad for a Pizza Hut Meat Lover's Pizza with cheesy crust, followed immediately by a Jenny Craig ad.

The sooner the American people realize they have the power to say no, and then act on it, the sooner we can eat more sanely. Ya Grizz, you're a freakin saint for eating right. Give me a break. Sometimes these message boards are advertisements for how cool the members are.

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Click to view Doctor Wu076's profile Legend 412 posts since
Sep 25, 2000
9. May 16, 2006 7:30 PM in response to: Grizzly039
Grizzly,

Funny Bone is actually Robin Tara. She is a sicko who encourages troubled people in this forum to give in to their eating disorders. Do not engage her.
Click to view Ice Cream's profile Legend 602 posts since
Dec 28, 2003
10. May 16, 2006 7:44 PM in response to: Grizzly039
I love certain foods and dislike other foods, and then there are quite a bit of foods that are neutral to me. There is nothing wrong with liking food, but it sounds as if you abused food in the past, and probably loved that abuse., in addition to loving the kind of food that you gave up.

I must say that your post sounds like an accusation, though. I do not know what its purpose is, beyond claiming how great you are. And frankly, I do not think you ate "more" food than before. You definitely had to eat less calories to lose all that weight. Or are you just looking at the numbers of carrots vs. the number of potato chips?
Click to view Iontach's profile Legend 1,522 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
11. May 16, 2006 8:05 PM in response to: Grizzly039
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ice Cream:
I love certain foods and dislike other foods, and then there are quite a bit of foods that are neutral to me. There is nothing wrong with liking food, but it sounds as if you abused food in the past, and probably loved that abuse., in addition to loving the kind of food that you gave up.

I must say that your post sounds like an accusation, though. I do not know what its purpose is, beyond claiming how great you are. And frankly, I do not think you ate "more" food than before. You definitely had to eat less calories to lose all that weight. Or are you just looking at the numbers of carrots vs. the number of potato chips?
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Well, here's my 2c. Grizzly's post was, for me, not an accusation. It was, for me, a reminder of what food is.

Food is fuel, yes, but it is also the first asparagus of the season, a tangerine at Christmas, your first boyfriend offering you a bite of his chocolate bar, your child's expression when she first tastes banana and loves it, the smell of bagels baking the first time you make them, the risotto you made with your college room-mate, chicken soup when you're ill, spiced beef like you get nowhere else in the world, juniper berries making you smile because they remind you of good gin, the tomatoes you grew in your first garden and which were the best you ever tasted, blue cheese from the deli after a long car journey late at night when you were 12, the secret family recipe for salsa picante.

It's a bacon sandwich when you get in from the pub, all salty and oily, it's watching the faces of people you love as they taste something delicious you've made. It's two of you making your own pasta, hardly able to stand from laughing. It's memory and it's hope and it's love.

And it's offering a friend you've never met a recipe for jam, because you're offering him the pleasure of making and eating it.

And yes, I feel sorry for people who don't feel about food as I do, just as I feel sorry for people who are color-blind. They're missing out on something that gives me such joy. And if you don't like that, in the words of a very wise and dear friend: Bite me.

Click to view NurseSarahB's profile Expert 45 posts since
Feb 8, 2006
12. May 16, 2006 8:23 PM in response to: Grizzly039
I LOVE food! I eat with gusto. I started the Kill the Sweettooth thread because I'm trying to focus my appetite on healthier things, but there are MANY healthy dishes that I adore.
Click to view Kristy20088's profile Rookie 4 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
13. May 16, 2006 8:27 PM in response to: Grizzly039
Funny Bone, you seriously need help. I don't believe you have an eating disorder, I think you are just seriously sick. If you did have an eating disorder, you would know how difficult it is to go through one and you wouldn't encourage it in people. I should just ignore you. I know you are just saying these things to annoy people, but you really ****** me off this time. Pretty much everything you say is false. I hope nobody listens to you. You don't seem to be a smart person so hopefully anyone who reads your posts will see that and not take your advice.
Click to view NGeorgiaTR's profile Pro 93 posts since
Feb 8, 2006
14. May 16, 2006 8:37 PM in response to: Grizzly039
Another vegetarian that loves food here. My definition of 'food' is just different than many others. Also very different than it was for the first 20 years of my life.