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44 Replies Last post: Jun 28, 2006 12:02 PM by spidergirl Go to original post 1 2 3 Previous Next

RazLeopard

43 posts since
May 8, 2006

30. Dec 21, 2007 7:17 PM

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Re: Exhuastion

Haha!

Actually I had a really good run this morning. I really think it might be an issue with Iron that is causing fatigue... I had some Chili last night which had a good amount of Iron on it. I'm not really sure where I do get Iron in my diet... I don't eat a lot of Red Meat (not because I'm vegan or anything). The meat that I usually eat is chicken. I was just searching around on the Internet and found some symptoms of Iron Deficiency. They all sound like me!! Well at least lately. I feel good today

How Would You Know if You Are Iron Deficient?
You could be iron deficient if you.....

..... are unusually tired;
..... have reduced ability to exercise comfortably;
..... have poor stamina;
..... if you are lethargic.

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Born to Run060

557 posts since
Jul 1, 2002

31. Jun 25, 2006 11:47 AM

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I know you asked more specifically about your diet, but I would like to address your training. From my experience, I have learned that the best way to increases mileage is gradually. What I mean by gradual is not going from 30 mpw to 70-80 mpw over a few months, but going from 30 mpw to 40-50 mpw consistantly by the next year and then 60-70 mpw consistently the following year, and so on. You shouldn't be feeling fatigued. Your paces shouldn't be slower. You workouts and races should be great.

Good luck!

Born to Run060

557 posts since
Jul 1, 2002

32. Jun 25, 2006 11:53 AM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by HSunshine:
. Now, I know some people can run 100+ MPW and doubles a plenty, but perhaps your body needs to take it a little easier.<HR>

Most do this over time so that 100 feels like 40 used to feel--patience is key.

I think she needs more protein. Her muscles are probably being severly damaged without the chance to repair.

RazLeopard

43 posts since
May 8, 2006

33. Jun 25, 2006 12:08 PM

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lol I keep forgetting to say in my posts that I'm male.

Born to Run060

557 posts since
Jul 1, 2002

34. Jun 25, 2006 1:22 PM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by RazLeopard:
lol I keep forgetting to say in my posts that I'm male.<HR>

I'm not sure that it matters, except that it would make iron deficiency much less likely. A blood test is a good idea though.

fredurie

1,979 posts since
Aug 21, 2002

35. Jun 25, 2006 1:30 PM

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The way to find out if it's overtraining or not, is to take a
couple of days off and see if your body comes back.

Simple. Just do it.

RazLeopard

43 posts since
May 8, 2006

36. Dec 21, 2007 7:17 PM

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I know it's probably less likely but I think people to often say just because you are male they automatically blow the problem of Iron off. I'm obviously not an expert by no means BUT I think it is a very possible problem. Anyways I'll probably get a blood test. I just hate how long they take to come back. Last time I had one done a few years back they never even called me back with the results. I had to actually call and they said they lost them. Magically 10 minutes later they called back and found them. I mean what if there really was a problem! I don't think that is something to screw around with.

Anyways I haven't increased my training just out of the blue. I've been running 50-60 miles for about a year. I did run like 70 miles that week with some more intense workouts which I can see that it was overdoing it. I've backed off this week, took a day off and had an easy week. As I've said - just probably to much to soon mixed with not properly fueling myself. It will be good to see what a doctor says though and getting a blood test done to really see if there is anything up. Also I've started writing down what I eat so this can hopefully help me see the holes in my diet and possibly show it to a nutritionist to see what I can fix to fuel myself correctly.

I really appreciate you all caring so much and offering so many suggestions/insights/comments! You guys are great

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spidergirl

72 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

37. Jun 26, 2006 12:29 PM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by katieliz816:
spidergirl!

how did your doc diagnose you with candida? I actually have already been diagnosed as gluten intolerant and lactose intolerant by a gastroenterologist about 2 years ago. now I really don't eat gluten pretty much ever (except beer...I'm in college!). but lately I've been feeling inexplicably crappy again...real tired, constant sore throat, more headaches, bad digestion, night sweats, etc, despite the fact that I eat really healthy and clean, almost no chemical/crappy food or anything. I googled candida symptoms and now I'm thinking maybe I should look into that. what kind of doctor did you see?<HR>

Hi! I hope you get this response... Sorry it took me so long to check back. I went to my regular PC doc and we couldn?t figure out what I had at first. She decided to run lab tests on a stool sample to check for parasites and bacteria and both those were negative. There was a high yeast content, though. Usually Candida is diagnosed through symptoms, I think.

I feel so much better being on the Candida diet. You might want to give it a try for a few weeks and see if you feel better. It?s not easy -- absolutely NO carbs or sweet foods of any kind. The diet also forbids mushrooms and foods that tend to attact molds. You can download a list of the allowed foods at:

http://wholeapproach.com/diet/[/URL" target="_blank">

Good luck!

Detroit094

133 posts since
Mar 14, 2005

38. Jun 26, 2006 1:24 PM

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raz,

I'm no doctor, and don't know every detail of your position, but I'll offer my two cents. Overtraining is always a possibility, but it sounds like you've been reasonable with your build up. I'd get a full blood work done if you haven't - that never hurts anyway. One thing did stick out. You are 5'7" and 112? Is that right? That is CRAZY skinny. Elite runners aren't nearly that light. For reference, I'm your size and weigh 20 pounds more, and I run competitively. I think you gotta put on some mass. I don't know what that comes out to on the BMI scale, but I'm sure its unequivocally underweight. Low body weight can hurt performance just as much as high body weight. Eat up. Don't think about it, just eat what you feel like. The doc I'm sure will also be able to shed some light on things. Keep us posted.

merigayle

1,586 posts since
Aug 15, 2007

39. Jun 26, 2006 3:03 PM

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I think the fact that you are male makes you even more underweight than if we thought you were female. Please see a doctor ASAP and gain some weight.

dynamite238

57 posts since
Oct 2, 2007

40. Jun 27, 2006 6:03 AM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by joecarolod:
You weigh less than mny petite wife!

Take 2 days off. On the second day, go to IHOP and eat all the pancakes, butter and maple syrup you can. Then eat some more. For lunch, eat a bacon double cheeseburger with fries. Then eat a Big Mac and a sundae. For dinner, try some ribs with a side of baked beans and cole slaw. for desert, fudge brownies. finish the day off by drinking 6 - 10 Guinness beers.

On the third day, you won't feel like running.

There you go, more food and 3 days off which is exactly what you need.<HR>

Makes me kind of wish I were underweight!

RazLeopard

43 posts since
May 8, 2006

41. Jun 27, 2006 9:14 AM

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I got the whole workup done. Blood, urine, x-ray, catscan and nothing showed up. Still getting pain/gay/cramping in the lower abdominal area after eating and lingers most of the day. Going to go see a gas doctor about it or whatever... don't know if that will solve anything but we'll see.

merigayle

1,586 posts since
Aug 15, 2007

42. Jun 27, 2006 11:48 AM

in response to: RazLeopard

Re: Exhuastion

quote:<HR>Originally posted by RazLeopard:
I got the whole workup done. Blood, urine, x-ray, catscan and nothing showed up. Still getting pain/gay/cramping in the lower abdominal area after eating and lingers most of the day. Going to go see a gas doctor about it or whatever... don't know if that will solve anything but we'll see.<HR>

Did you discuss your weight or diet with the doctor?

changer

71 posts since
Aug 4, 2004

43. Jun 28, 2006 7:05 AM

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A few things that scare me about this post and yes it maybe health issues other then an ed but why are you still running when you feel this way? Your body is telling you something is wrong. Also though ed issues give you the sam stomach issues and can cause damage. You posted you don't want to bulk up. Your a male at 112 at 5'7 you need to gain healthy weight. I have a lot of stomach problems and understand the not wanting to eat but you have to think of it as medicine.Good luck on your tests. I have been through all of them and there stressful but needed. Meds can help along with dietary changes. Also if you have ed issues its ok to get help its needed to win a hard battle.

spidergirl

72 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

44. Jun 28, 2006 12:02 PM

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Re: Exhuastion

quote:<HR>Originally posted by RazLeopard:
I got the whole workup done. Blood, urine, x-ray, catscan and nothing showed up. Still getting pain/gay/cramping in the lower abdominal area after eating and lingers most of the day. Going to go see a gas doctor about it or whatever... don't know if that will solve anything but we'll see.<HR>

RazLeopard-

Do you feel fine first thing in the morning, but then get bloated/uncomfortable in the afternoon after eating? I posted earlier that it could be an overgrowth of Candida yeast in your intestines (we all have some Candida in our gut but it can be thrown off-balance and then cause bloating, gas, digestive problems, fatigue - a whole bunch of symptoms). I was diagnosed a couple of months ago and after changing my diet, I feel SO much better. I?m also on supplements to combat the yeast. Just a thought -- maybe worth checking out.

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