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Click to view jennifercp's profile Rookie 4 posts since
Jul 7, 2006

Jul 29, 2006 10:24 AM

Couch to 5k to lose weight

Hi Everyone,
I am new to this site and new to running. I'm out of shape, to say the least (5'8" and about 190 lbs.). I am about to start my 4th week in the Couch to 5k Program. I NEVER thought I would enjoy running, but I was willing to give it a try to lose weight. Now I'm almost obsessed and I really enjoy it! For the last 2 months I was also doing a circuit training class 2 evenings a week, but have recently stopped because I was getting so tired and it was becoming more difficult to get up in the morning to go for a run (walk/jog).

I haven't lost any weight and my clothes aren't fitting any better. (I am watching my calorie intake too.) I recently started to increase my speed, but I just read that to lose weight, you should increase distance, not speed. The Couch to 5k Program includes 25 minute walk/jogs 3 days a week. Should I increase my time?

Like I said, I am enjoying myself, but I'm also getting pretty discouraged that I'm not seeing any results with my weight yet. I thought I would be losing weight so that I could get fit and be able to run better and stronger. I'm pounding my feet into the ground with all of this extra weight and am looking forward to being able to run with a little less mass.

Any advice or shared experiences are much appreciated. Thanks!
Click to view veeeyloova's profile Rookie 5 posts since
May 23, 2006
1. Jul 29, 2006 10:36 AM in response to: jennifercp
Re: Couch to 5k to lose weight
Hello! and Congratulations on the new habit!

I started the program back in May and have just recently begun to really feel like I'm a runner (slow jogger, actually). I am 5'5" and was 190 when I started. I now weigh 200. However, my shape has definitely changed, and my clothes fit better, but I've gained weight.
The only advice I can offer as a non-experienced runner, is to make sure that you're consuming the right amount of calories (not too little either! that can make you gain too) and focus on your running, not on the scale. You'll eventually start to lose.

My brother went from couch potatoe to marathons. He told me the same thing. He didn't start to really lose weight until he was running 4 to 5 miles (running, not jogging) a day. He, as I did, gained at first, because leg muscles are becoming more dense and stronger, which will create a gain. I'm pretty sure that he wasn't watching his calorie intake though, so I'm REALLY hoping that it doesn't take that long for me to start dropping!

Cheers! Kristina

ps- If anyone can discount what I've written, please do! I'm still learning too!
Click to view Iontach's profile Legend 1,522 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
2. Jul 29, 2006 10:44 AM in response to: jennifercp
Re: Couch to 5k to lose weight
Ok, here's the math.

A pound of fat = 3500 calores.

A mile of running burns c. 100 calories (more or less depending on your weight).

The last week of C-to-5k has nine miles of running if you run for distance rather than time, and most people don't - - for most people the distance covered is less than this.

So by the end of C-to-5k you're burning 900 calories by running - just over a quarter of a pound - and for most C-to-5kers, it'll be less, because the distance will be less.

So why run at all? There's a number of reasons. C-to-5k is running kindergarten. It's just the beginning, and regular weight-bearing cardio-vascular exercise does more good things for your body than there's room to type here.

In order to lose weight, you either have to take fewer calories in, or use more, or both. The "both" option is the one that makes most sense - you get the non-weight related exercise benefits and you don't have to exercise so much you risk injuring yourself.

Most people find that they need to think consciously about fuelling their running when they get to 35-40 miles/week. You're not there yet, and it will be a while before you are, but if you stop in Week 4 of C-to-5k you never will be.

When you say you're "watching what you eat", what do you mean? Most people find that some form of food diary is vital - be it an orgnaized program like Weight Watchers, or a notebook, or something online like www.fitday.com[/URL" target="_blank"> or www.sparkpeople.com.[/URL" target="_blank"> Those two online resources are particularly useful because they also calculate your intake of vital vitamins and minerals, and tell you what proportion of your intake is carbs, what percentage protein, etc.

Please don't try to run faster. Speed kills newbies. Run at a pace that allows you to talk out loud (or sing) - and as your cardiovascular system adapts, you'll get faster without even trying.

Running teaches patience. Are you ready to learn? I have no idea.

Click to view alyshab's profile Pro 60 posts since
May 11, 2003
4. Jul 29, 2006 3:29 PM in response to: jennifercp
Re: Couch to 5k to lose weight
Lontach - awesome post!

Jennifer, a couple of extra suggestions:

1. Take vital measurements (each arm, thigh, waist, hips, bust) with a tape measure and use this as well as scales!

2. Measure yourself fortnightly (and if you have the discipline, stay off the scales!)

3. If you can add 1x circuit training class in without compromising your running, do so. It will provide a nice form of cross training, plus the use of weights will provide a little bit of strength training

4 . Since it sounds like you're a member of a gym, ask them to provide you with a basic whole body strength workout (you won't get bulky!) The greater proportion of muscle mass you have in your body, the more effective your body is at burning fat.

Think of the C25K as a commitment to weightloss and a healthy life - it took a while to put the weight on, and it will take a bit of time and investment to lose it. Starting is hard, but what you are doing at present is building a great foundation to support weight loss (which will happen!) and a healthy life. Good luck.
Click to view sweetiepie083's profile Legend 224 posts since
Jul 27, 2005
5. Jul 29, 2006 4:14 PM in response to: jennifercp
Re: Couch to 5k to lose weight
Hey Jenn, I know you joined our weight loss group but wanted to comment on some things you ask about. It took me over a year to lose 35 pounds. I didn't lose for almost 4 months as I just wasn't excercising enough to lose. The facts are that you have to have a negative caloric burn of at least 3500 a week before you lose a pound. I use fitday and it is wonderful. But I have found especially now that I have the big bulk gone (still want to drop another 25) that losing is even harder. I have to excercise and burn at least 700 calories a day and keep my caloric intake at 1800. I can't go under or I am not fueled enough and I don't lose as much if I go over. Its a fine line to walk. Along with your eating journal, why don't you start a running/walking journal on here. I just did. I went back and got all my info and miles off my garmin and plugged it in. That is when I started to see the pattern of either too many calories or too few burned. This week as I said on the weight loss thread, I dropped 3.5 pounds but that is only because I am in my 3rd week of increased mileage. This week I did 38. I am finding that the key number for me is 30+. Think of this as a process. Getting to know your body and how it works and what it needs to fuel and function properly. Note when you feel fatigued and when you feel good. Pay attention to that info and learn from it. It took me 12 years and 5 kids to gain all my weight, its going to take me about 3 years to get it all off. Goodluck.

Tracy
Click to view teetime's profile Legend 459 posts since
Aug 17, 2002
6. Jul 29, 2006 8:35 PM in response to: jennifercp
Re: Couch to 5k to lose weight
I think iontach covered it all except ...

The Runners World article that someone posted a link to in another thread (I think the one about carbs which sugar) suggests that the news re: running and weight loss is even more bleak than I already though ... that is, one might burn 100calories while running a mile but that same person would burn 35calories (number made up) while watching TV ... so those 9 c25k miles are really great great great for psychological and physical reasons (lots other than weight) but won't be the answer to your problems.

These number are actually making me think more about my own experience. When I up training I seem to lose (not always but I have to watch out for it). However, I don't track calories or generally activity too carefully. I wonder if it could be that I eat less when doing lots of hard workouts (happens especially when hot) and I feel like training more in summer when I move anyway?
Click to view deanadelsol's profile Rookie 2 posts since
Jun 10, 2006
8. Jul 30, 2006 6:00 PM in response to: jennifercp
Re: Couch to 5k to lose weight
Jen, I understand your desire to shed pounds quickly. I'm on week 8 of the C25K, and I'm feeling great, but I can't help but think that I'd be able to run faster and farther if I wasn't carrying around an extra 25+ lbs.

I went from no exercising and an eating free-for-all to exercising 4-5 days a week and watching what I eat. I've lost just 6 lbs since June 1. I also haven't seen a huge change in clothes--the tight shorts I thought I might be able to wear by August are still too tight to wear--but I try to concentrate on what is different--my butt doesn't jiggle as much, I actually have muscles in my legs where they weren't evident before, and I don't get winded running up my basement stairs. That convinces me I'm moving in the right direction.

Someone already suggested this, but it is worth repeating--don't weigh yourself too often. I was weighing every day and that was very discouraging. I've read that people who start an exercise program (who have been pretty sedentary) should refrain from weighing for 2 - 3 months. The reason being that such a person's body is going through major changes--their body chemistry, muscle mass, hydration, etc. is all changing and those changes will be reflected on the scale although they don't necessarily have a lot to do with actual fat being lost. Two months is a long time, but I've managed to cut back to once every 2 or 3 weeks, and it has helped me to focus on other benefits of running rather than just obsessing about weight loss.

The other thing I've started to do is working with weights. I did some research on weight loss and articles in reliable journals suggest that women who do weight training 2 -3 times a week lose more weight than those who do only cardio/aerobic exercise. I had the people at my gym set me up with a program, and 4 of the 7 lbs I've lost have come off since I started doing that. Coincidence? Maybe, but it can't hurt.

So good luck with the program and be sure to take satisfaction in all the little victories along the way.