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I'm registered (again) for the NYC Marathon. Third time in a row. I have not run it once
2011: I was able to train up to 24miles and NEVER hit the wall. I hurt my calf. No marathon. At that time I was not paying any attention to diet at all. I was clueless.
2012: I hit the wall once during training at 15 miles. At that time I learned about proper diet for distance running and fueling during the run. I got up to 20 miles, no wall. Marathon cancelled due to the storm.
2013: This year I hit the wall during trainig at 14 miles three times in a row.
My diet consists of almost exclusivley carbs for 3-4 days prior to long runs.High carb, lowfat/protein. LOTS of pasta, bread (white, rye, sourdough), pretzels, veggies ,crackers, baked potatoes, occasional french fries, soup, bean burritos, mashed potatoes, etc. ANYTHING that is high carb and preferably low sugar.
I also drinkloads of water – especially the last 24 hours.
I totally avoid alcohol during this period also.
Pre-run meal WAS all carbs. I recently added a 30mg protein supplement which got me to 17 miles before I hit the wall.
I eat about 2 hours prior to the run.
I run 3-4 times per week. 7-10 miles - varying between easy runs and tempo runs.
Long runs are about every two weeks.
I drink accelerade (5 oz per mile) and consume Gu gels every 45 minutes.
I drink Endurox recovery drink right after each distance run.
Anyone experience anything similar?
Any thoughts on how to beat it?
My guess is you are running to fast for your long runs! Not your diet or fueling plan. Slow down on your LR's!
Also you don't need to go to 24 in training!
Have to agree, you're probably doing your long runs too fast. You're bonking on those runs, not hitting the wall. Bonking is outrunning your training/fitness. Hitting the wall is outrunning your energy stores. You may also be overdoing it a little on the carbs and the fluids. But that's a judgement you'll have to make in comparison to your training from past years.
THANKS to both of you
I'm headed out tomorrow at a slower pace.
Running takes a toll on the body and depletes it of valuable nutrients that are necessary for the mind and body to perform and function properly. Your diet may be even more important than training during your training leading up to and during your race! Replacing these nutrients are key. A proper diet is essential but some coaches and athletes have found benefits to adding specific vitamins and nutrients to their diets during their intense training. A company now offer a pack of sports nutrition designed for endurance training. A recent review of Enduropacks products from certified coach and triathlete can be seen here: http://www.triswimcoach.com/enduropack-comprehensive-intensive-review/ . It may be worth checking out, particularly if you are feeling tired or sore after your long training runs.