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Mar 23, 2007
150. May 2, 2007 8:38 PM in response to: TriBob
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by jwcrew99:
Ever see a NASCAR wreck at Tallegega?

Not pretty

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I understand now why they can't ride aero but I haven't seen a wreck at Talladega. Although I did see the movie Talladega Nights w/ Will Ferrell. All I really remember from it was Will Ferrell dancing around in his underwear on the race track and the Bill Lumbergh playing his father. It was kinda disappointing.


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Oct 31, 2006
153. May 2, 2007 9:37 PM in response to: TriBob
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by HarryLime:
Is the professional bike fit geared more towards making sure your seat, handlebars, and stem are adjusted to the aerobars, or is the setting of the aerobars themselves what's important?<HR>


The fit is in regards to the entire position of each part of your body on the bike. The idea is get as aero as possible while still being reaonsably comfortable (or else you won't stay down in your bars). You want a 90 degree angle (or as close as possible) between your upper body and your legs. You also want a 90 degree angle to your elbows on the aerobars (or else you'll be too stretched out). I'm simplifying things here, but that's the essence of a good fit IMO. Tom Demerley has some good stuff about this on his website:

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Not everyone can give you a good, professional fitting. Most bike shops will say they can, but be wary. If at all possible, look for someone who is FIST certified. This is a fit program developed by Dan Empfield (founder of Quintana Roo and Slowtwitch). The only problem is that then you have to say that you were "fisted". I went to a FIST certified place, but I have trouble saying that!!

If you need to take your aerobars off from time to time, you just need to mark the position with tape and you'll be all set. You can also loosen the bars so they move around to a position that will fit in your car without actually removing them.
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Dec 10, 2007
154. May 2, 2007 9:50 PM in response to: TriBob
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Bike fit question--as far as being FISTed (man is that hard to say!!!)... Do they recognize the difference between men's and women's fit? As in women aren't just small men?

****'s about to freeze over. I talked to my husband about getting a new Terry. He thinks it's too expensive, but said to give him a few days to think it over. Generally, I do get what I want...
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155. May 2, 2007 9:56 PM in response to: TriBob
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by 4boysmom:
Bike fit question--as far as being FISTed (man is that hard to say!!!)... Do they recognize the difference between men's and women's fit? As in women aren't just small men?<HR>


I'm not sure exactly, but the process takes into account the differences I believe. When I was fitted, they measured almost every possible part of my body - inseam, arm length, shoulder to elbow and I'm sure there were others, but I forget now. Those measurements gave them a starting point for where to position the seat, pedals and bars. Then, I got on the bike and it was tweaked from there. It took about 1.5 hours and quite a few changes were made during that time with me pedaling and trying out each change. I love my position now.
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156. May 2, 2007 10:02 PM in response to: TriBob
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by DawnT:
I'm not sure exactly, but the process takes into account the differences I believe. When I was fitted, they measured almost every possible part of my body - inseam, arm length, shoulder to elbow and I'm sure there were others, but I forget now. Those measurements gave them a starting point for where to position the seat, pedals and bars. Then, I got on the bike and it was tweaked from there. It took about 1.5 hours and quite a few changes were made during that time with me pedaling and trying out each change. I love my position now.

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Do the adjustments they make while getting fisted throw off your comfortability for normal riding either on the drops or the hoods?


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157. May 2, 2007 10:09 PM in response to: TriBob
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by HarryLime:
Do the adjustments they make while getting fisted throw off your comfortability for normal riding either on the drops or the hoods?<HR>


I don't ride on my drops (never have - my diaphragm gets compressed and I can't breathe), but I can sit up just fine and be comfortable. It's just that I'm more comfortable in the bars, so I stay down most of the time.
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Oct 11, 2007
158. May 2, 2007 10:13 PM in response to: TriBob
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TriBob,
I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. If you don't mind
you said:
"Muscles can only store a limited amount of glycogen. It needs to be replaced for longer events during the event itself. If not, you enter a catabolic state."

in 60- 90 min?

what happens to me in a catabolic state?
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Dec 10, 2007
159. May 2, 2007 10:18 PM in response to: TriBob
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That sounds like what I had done for my custom bike. It was called the "Fit Kit". Perhaps it's the same thing? I've always been very comfortable on the bike--even riding 32weeks pregnant!

What's the going price for a good fitting? Should that be part of the price of a new bike?
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Oct 3, 2007
160. May 2, 2007 10:58 PM in response to: TriBob
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by mbannon:
At 11 min/mile you won't come in last.<HR>



True. I run slower than that and, while I've certainly come in last, it doesn't happen at decent sized races. That's the key

Don't let it bother you. You'll do great!!! There are a lot of people out there slower than you, like me!
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Dec 14, 2007
161. May 3, 2007 6:36 AM in response to: TriBob
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by wyrillco:

True. I run slower than that and, while I've certainly come in last, it doesn't happen at decent sized races. That's the key

Don't let it bother you. You'll do great!!! There are a lot of people out there slower than you, like me!
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Oh god, I WISH I could average 11min miles! I've been doing this 3 yrs now and my first races I avg'd 17min miles and I STILL wasn't last. I think the last people were in the 22-23min/mile and they got more applause than the winners.
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Dec 14, 2007
162. May 3, 2007 6:40 AM in response to: TriBob
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by melistic:
TriBob,
I thoroughly enjoyed this thread. If you don't mind
you said:
"Muscles can only store a limited amount of glycogen. It needs to be replaced for longer events during the event itself. If not, you enter a catabolic state."

in 60- 90 min?

what happens to me in a catabolic state?
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Serious:
Your body starts eating muscle for fuel to keep you going. You need to avoid this state as it is SO easy to burn up the muscle and so hard to gain it.
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Feb 3, 2006
164. May 3, 2007 7:53 AM in response to: TriBob
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This is a great thread - a lot of random questions I would never have thought to ask!

Ok, pool question - last night I went to the pool to do my workout, and it was packed - unfortunately it was an 'open swim/lap swim' combo with only 2 lanes set aside for lap swimmers. So as you can imagine, there were at least 3 or 4 people at any given time taking up the lanes - we were circle swimming, but I feel like I was barely able to get a workout! It just so happened that a couple people in my lanes were dawdling along making it hard to keep any kind of rhythm.

Aside from the obvious of going to the pool at less busy times, are there any tricks to getting in a good workout when you're packed in like sardines? I tried passing a few times which just seem to confuse the other swimmers, but I'm not even sure what the proper etiquette is in these situations. Thoughts?