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32 Replies Last post: May 20, 2007 5:31 PM by tithers   1 2 3 Previous Next
Click to view purple hayes084's profile Legend 215 posts since
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May 18, 2007 7:53 AM

Half Iron peeps

What's your stand alone half marathon PR vs. your half iron, half marathon PR? What's the time frame between the two?

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Click to view Doug33's profile Pro 157 posts since
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1. May 18, 2007 8:38 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
There ia about a 30 min difference between my standalone PR and my recent HIM.

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Click to view tri_coach06's profile Legend 662 posts since
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2. May 18, 2007 8:43 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
If i take the best and he best about 10 minutes. If I take the averages, about 12-15 minutes.

S

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Click to view Silly Sally087's profile Legend 1,244 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
3. May 18, 2007 8:52 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
About 25 min. off my best time, but 18-20 min. off my average.

Sally

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Click to view DawnT071's profile Legend 713 posts since
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5. May 18, 2007 8:55 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
I've never run a stand-alone 1/2, but in training I can maintain a 10:00/mile pace which comes out to 2:10 (right?). My 1/2 IM run times in my halfs were 2:21 last summer and 2:25 in 2004.
Click to view runninirish's profile Legend 233 posts since
Feb 26, 2007
6. May 18, 2007 8:59 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
Last year I went:

1/2 in April 1:28
1/2 IM in July with 1:58 split

I'm usually dead off the bike though...not a strong biker yet...

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Click to view biketm's profile Legend 454 posts since
Jul 9, 2007
7. May 18, 2007 9:09 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
Best 1/2 marathon - 1:32

I have only raced one 1/2 IM and my run sucked because it was 96 degrees and I felt like I would not make it, and it was a very hilly run course - 2:12

Tim
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8. May 18, 2007 9:25 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
Best Half M: 1:51 - ( before kids)
Usual HM: Low 1:50's (anytime)
HM split in only HIM: 2:12 (no bike training at all so very tired)

I don't see how this could possibly impact PH, though....
Click to view tithers's profile Legend 1,406 posts since
Nov 26, 2007
9. May 18, 2007 9:29 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
For me it was an hour difference...I think if I tried harder it would've been a 30 minute difference.
Click to view Boggsmsg's profile Legend 425 posts since
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10. May 18, 2007 9:29 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
HM PR 1:54:42 January '06
HIM marathon 2:20:56 May '06
Click to view tri_coach06's profile Legend 662 posts since
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11. May 18, 2007 9:32 AM in response to: purple hayes084
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I've done a half mari and then a half IM 3 weeks later.

S
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12. May 18, 2007 10:04 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
Half Marathon PR (modern day): 1:22:25 (Sept '05) - few months before first ever half Iron. Lots of speedwork.

Half Marathon half Iron PR: 1:30:17 (June '06). Very little speedwork.

Averaging things out, although I don't race the half marathon all that much, I'd say I could pop off a consistent 1:24. Under if I did more speedwork.

I've now done 4 half Iron's. Each of them I've done in about 1:30-1:32 (MiamiMan: 1:31, Mooseman: 1:30, Musselman: 1:30, Devilman: 1:37). My pace in my last half Iron put me in this pace category, too, although the time was slower due to two Portohead breaks.

So my difference is roughly 8 to 10 minutes.

But... I'm am a huge proponent that your bike is the gatekeeper to being able to run to your ability. The stronger you are on the bike, and the better you can recover from extended exerted efforts, the better you will run. This is why intervals are very important on the bike. And you have to get your legs used to running off the bike.
Click to view RachelK024's profile Expert 57 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
13. May 18, 2007 10:11 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
Half marathon 2:01

Half Ironman/half marathon 2:17

I did the half marathon 2 weeks after the half IM.
Click to view zdesmond's profile Amateur 31 posts since
May 19, 2005
14. May 18, 2007 10:34 AM in response to: purple hayes084
Re: Half Iron peeps
My numbers probably won't help much.

1/2 Marathon PR is 1:38 (September 06) with another one at 1:41
1/2 IronMan PR is 1:39. (June 06)

I would like to say that higher fitness at the 1/2 Iron is the reason, but I really was in better shape for the standalone 1/2 Marathon.