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Click to view elphaba's profile Pro 63 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
31. Jul 5, 2007 8:08 PM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
I'm in for Timberman 70.3. Honestly, my big concern is swimming fast enough to make the cut off. My goal is to finish, as I have never done anything this long before. So far the training is going well. Long rides and runs are fun. Did my first international? distance a few weeks ago and made a ton of mistakes to learn from. Eh, if they kick me off the course, no biggie. It's awesome inspiration to be training for this.
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Dec 14, 2007
32. Jul 6, 2007 12:23 AM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
Couldn't resist...for those who want to see what the lake looks like:
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/weirscam/index.shtml[/URL" target="_blank">
Click to view juliemboyle's profile Legend 1,028 posts since
Nov 17, 2007
33. Jul 6, 2007 6:48 AM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
You're right, the bad a** hill is NOT on the Sprint course...here's a breakdown for you as best as my memory serves.....funny I couldn't even enjoy the downhills on the way out as all I could think was I have to ride this up on the way back!!!!

1st to 11B, is fine, slight incline right away, but no biggie.

Left on 11B is fine with some good downhills (that suc* on way back)

Left on Hounsell, great flat, with some downhills.

Left on 107...UGH, ok for about 1/2 mile, then the big a** that keeps giving and giving and giving.....

Left on Leavitt, big hill, then flat, then big downhill.

Left on 106....great, I think it is about 10-12 mile stretch here....flat/slight downhill. I was easily going 19-20 here.

Right on N. Village, flat, easy.

Left back onto 106, this was HARD. Only a slight downhill but directly into a very strong headwind, was having a hard time hitting 14 MPH here.

The last 5 miles or so you hit a pretty good hill so it's sucking the wind out of you as you are tired....

Good news is you end up on a downhill!

Hope this is helpful to someone!
Click to view Dougie Fresh037's profile Legend 600 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
34. Jul 7, 2007 11:18 PM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
Just back from a week "up at the lake". I did a lot of riding and running along the sprint and HIM routes. It hasn't gotten any flatter than last year but I am definitely riding much stronger so it doesn't feel as steep. I so need a new bike though. It's been fun doing some exploring beyond the sprint bike route but man, there are some serious hills beyond the sprint turnaround. I am happy to be back home where it's "flatter" here near the seacoast.

Next weekend (we go up every weekend and I spend all my summer vacation time up there) I won't forget my wetsuit (how frustrating being without it all week) and try my first OW swim of the season at Ellacoya.

I hope everyone's training is going well. It's crazy to think that it's only six weeks away.
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Dec 14, 2007
35. Jul 17, 2007 11:17 AM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
As I am reading/posting here last night I overhear an American Express commercial for something called the Members Project and actually hear in the dialogue: "Save Lake Winnipesaukee" at which point Martin Scorsese says, "Lake Winni-Who?". I had to rewind my Tivo and make sure I wasn't hearing things. I wasn't. This was a national commercial talking about Lake Winnipesaukee of all places. I checked out the website in the commercial and this is what I found:

http://www.membersproject.com/Environment_Wildlife/4874[/URL" target="_blank">

If you've done the Timberman, you know what an amazingly beautiful area Lake Winnipesaukee is. If you're an American Express card member you can go online to the website above and the winning project will get sponsored by American Express.

NAYY.
Click to view teacherjen's profile Legend 469 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
36. Jul 17, 2007 11:24 AM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
Julie- Thanks for the blow by blow of the bike course....

How is the road surface, though? Could you stay in aero for most of the course do you think? I'm trying to decide whether or not to put my aerobars back on for Timberman or to leave them off. I've been having problems with my bike being set up for aerobars, so trying to make a decision.

jen
Click to view juliemboyle's profile Legend 1,028 posts since
Nov 17, 2007
37. Jul 18, 2007 9:21 AM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
Jen: I don't use aero bars so I can't really tell you. I imagine that most people with aero bars would use them since tons were using them at Mooseman and this course isn't that much different.

The road surface is pretty good. I don't remember any really bad cracks or bumps?
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Mar 10, 2006
38. Jul 20, 2007 8:07 PM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
I rode the HIM course for the first time today. This was also my first time riding 56 miles. After driving the course I was a little freaked out by all the hills... when riding it I could do all but the nasty Marsh Hill . I sadly had to get off half way up and walk. Fortunately there was a house with a driveway that I could pull into to unclip without falling over from going at a snail's pace up the hill. I felt pretty dorky.
The rest of the ride was fine. Very windy out on 106 and blazing sunshine.

For those of you who have done Timberman before I have a few questions:

Is traffic stopped by race volunteers at key turns?
ie: the left turn from downhill on Leavitt onto Rt 106 south? I lost a lot of momentum having to stop here and wait to cross the road.
the left turn from S. Village road onto 106 north?
Given that I rode the course on a Friday afternoon as people were headed to the ever busy Lakes Region for the weekend - the traffic was massive.(at least it wasn't a NASCAR weekend at NHIS...) I had to get off my bike and run it across 106 - so many cars/big trucks going really fast.

How is the transition area set up at Ellacoya? Are all of the bikes set up in the beach area or in the parking lot?
Is there a changing tent or is the entire transition area out in the open? Where does one actually mount his/her bike and ride out?

Thanks for the help!
Click to view ussoccer's profile Legend 1,748 posts since
Dec 11, 2007
39. Jul 21, 2007 4:22 PM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
Finally, I feel qualified to talk about the Timberman bike course. Today I rode it. This, posted originally in the daily bread thread, is my take. I'll try to type up a few more details perhaps next week; in the meantime, if anyone has questions, fire away... I'll be sure to check here when I see activity:

Timberman Bike Course

First 12 miles were up and down where you crawled up long hills with generous grades and zipped down the backsides for a fairly slow break.

From 12 to 28 miles, the turnaround, the course was long gradual rollers, but with a 15-25 mph wind at my back where it was so strong you felt NO wind at all because, well, you were traveling about the same speed as it, I cruised in big fear, often times in my top gear (52-11) for long periods of time. As much as I enjoyed the care-free hammer, I knew that inspite getting my average up to 21 mph after the hilly, slow first 12 miles, the real work was ahead.

From the turnaround at 28 on back to 44, pure **** was paid. The wind was so strong I had to ride in the kiddie chain ring up front about half the time. I tipped my head down and made myself as aero as aero would allow as I watched my average pace fall from near 21 all the way to near 19. If not for a sore bottom, created because of extra downward pressure on the saddle in attempts to get more aero and a bit more of a grind, I would have easily slipped into a zone and stayed there for duration, but with my saddle sores threatening to rip me apart, I had to keep shifting around.

Finally at mile 44 I turned away from the wind and gradual rollers that, with the wind, threated to keep my pace slow. Inspite more hills en route back to home base, my pace climbed to 20 even for a 56 mile round trip ride in 2:48.

Tough course.

Followed immediately by...

5 mile run 2+ miles up run course and back. Legs felt amazingly amazing. At the turnaround I hammered it back at near all-out. That was fun.

Still, tough course with the wind. Without the wind I'd say it's comparable to Mooseman, but with the wind, wow, that was tough. It was tougher riding back from 28 to 44 straight into the wind even though the road was otherwise favorable to riding with light gentle rolling graduals over a net incline. That stretch was much tougher than the hills, which can be a bear, especially if you're not strong on the hills. The hills are steep and long enough to make this course slow. And tough.
Click to view melonella's profile Legend 406 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
40. Jul 27, 2007 11:35 PM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
In case someone missed it, the bib numbers and wave assignments are out at http://www.lin-mark.com/timent07.htm[/URL" target="_blank">
Click to view teacherjen's profile Legend 469 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
41. Jul 29, 2007 5:32 PM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
Oh, hey-- I want to meet my virtual tri-peeps!

Who wants to meet up, and when and where? I'm getting in Thursday afternoon sometime....leaving on Monday.

Any ideas?
Jen
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Dec 14, 2007
42. Jul 29, 2007 9:05 PM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
How about Friday evening during packet pickup at the TimberFest at Gunstock? It would be fun to meet everyone and wish y'all luck.
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Nov 17, 2007
43. Jul 30, 2007 7:30 AM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
I am coming up Saturday, not sure the time yet....Jen....send me your cell number at my email:

julie.boyle@globalcrossing.com
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Nov 17, 2007
44. Aug 13, 2007 9:08 AM in response to: LeftRightRepeat
Re: Timberman Training Thread
Ok, I just printed out my athlete packet and my eyes immediately started misting....I can't believe that after all the hard work and preperation, it's finally here!

On to my question: What is the run course like for the 70.3? I didn't have time to drive or run it when I did the bike course. Is it hilly? Is it in the sun, is there shade? I kind of like the idea that it's out and back twice, I'm going to have 4 (quarters) in my head, take 1st one slow, second a little faster, third, then whatever I have on the last one.

Oh and weather now says 74 and sunny!