quote:<HR>Originally posted by CMJHawk86:

Question for anyone willing to take a stab at it. I've signed up for a half marathon on Labor Day. 2 days before that, on Saturday, would be my long run day and I have 20 planned. I'm feeling a bit of pressure to get it in since I didn't get those miles in this past weekend. But even with training through the HM as I am, that seems like a lot to do just 2 days before a race. What do you all think? Should I do the long run anyway and take off Sunday? Or scale the Saturday run back to say, 10-12? Any thoughts?

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I have a similar question:

I am running a 5K on Labor Day that is known as the "Go Girl Run"
5K. As you might expect, it's all women. I want to do well, as I will
be well known in the Omaha area if I win the entire thing (only been
here three months, so that would look REALLY well for me).

I glanced at the results from last year, and the winner's time was
19:34. My PR is 19:06. Doable, eh? I hope so. But this Saturday
is the last of my long runs before the marathon--26 miles. Does
anyone have anything to say about this, bad, good or otherwise?

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by CMJHawk86:
Happy Monday.

Off day for me today after playing soccer yesterday. Overall it was a strange weekend since I had to abbreviate my Saturday long run due to the weather (was supposed to be 20, ended up being 11).

Question for anyone willing to take a stab at it. I've signed up for a half marathon on Labor Day. 2 days before that, on Saturday, would be my long run day and I have 20 planned. I'm feeling a bit of pressure to get it in since I didn't get those miles in this past weekend. But even with training through the HM as I am, that seems like a lot to do just 2 days before a race. What do you all think? Should I do the long run anyway and take off Sunday? Or scale the Saturday run back to say, 10-12? Any thoughts?

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If you want to PR in the half marathon I'd try to do the long run some other time. If you're just training through and not caring about time, then I'd probably do them both. The race might be hard and difficult, but it could be a great workout to race on already tired legs.

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nirvana91:
First off, I don't think you should be running 26 miles to begin with. From what I've seen, studies indicate that a long training run during regular marathon training should be no longer than 20-22 miles. Beyond that point, any of the small benefits you'd gain from the extra mileage are offset by a significant increase in injury risk. Are you using a specific training program, or did you devise something yourself?

If you're absolutely intent on doing the race, I'd go ahead and do it, but don't expect to run a PR. Of course, it could still happen. I ran my 5k PR during the same week I PR'd in weekly mileage.

You have to decide what your priorities are here. If your main goal is the Omaha marathon, you should try under all circumstances to get the long run in, since the long runs are your most important workouts. If your main goal is to win the 5k, focus on that instead.

Then again, if you can simply alter your running schedule and put the long run in the middle of the week (either Wednesday or Thursday or this week OR next week), you should just do that.

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I agree with you on the 26 miles thing. I was just telling my husband
this weekend that I don't think I should do it. Maybe just settle for a
20-miler? I also think that 26 miles calls for injury. Just wanted to
make sure I was thinking straight, considering my amateur status.

As for the schedule, I'm going by the Cool Running Advanced
program. I'm actually supposed to be doing 28, but I kind of
worked it out to where I would only actually run 26, and not kill
myself being this is only my first marathon. Up until now I have
been following it pretty closely, and checking it with Hal Higdon's
as well.

Good advice there, thank you.

As for the 5K, I'll probably win whether I intend to or not. I'm not
going to try to PR. I just thought I would ask and see if it would
be a good idea that close to the 26 miles. Now that I'm not going
to do the 26, I'm not worried about it. I guess you answered my
REAL underlying question.

Thanks again.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nirvana91:
If you want to PR in the half marathon I'd try to do the long run some other time. If you're just training through and not caring about time, then I'd probably do them both. The race might be hard and difficult, but it could be a great workout to race on already tired legs.

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Nirv, thanks for the feedback. In this case, I don't really care about the time. This is a tune-up race, not a target race, i.e., I'm not expecting to PR at it.

Week #1 of 4 "Need to find speed" - Less miles more pace. Day #1 - recovery day

6.5am
4.0 lunch

usually it would have been 10 and 6 today. Time to scale back the eating with 20-25% less miles.

Alex--If you can run the same time as the last race or faster I think that you will be able to get top 20. Good luck with the race tomorrow.

Tonya---What shoes did you get? I hope they help you run faster. If the 5k is not a goal race, then don't run it all out. I would split up the miles to either make a long run in the middle of the week or whatever works best for you. If you really want to win the race, then I say go for it. It can be a good speed workout. Either way have fun.

The weather around here has cooled off from the high 90's low 100's to high 80's low 90's, so I can get in an afternoon run when my wife is home from work. 6 miles in 49:21(8:13). The running has felt great the last week and I am sure it has to do with the new shoes. Have a great day everyone.

quote:<HR>Originally posted by kfuller:

Tonya---What shoes did you get? I hope they help you run faster. If the 5k is not a goal race, then don't run it all out. I would split up the miles to either make a long run in the middle of the week or whatever works best for you. If you really want to win the race, then I say go for it. It can be a good speed workout. Either way have fun.
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I got the same shoes as I already had, Nike 360s II. I have tried all
kinds of running shoes--Asics, New Balance, Mizuno, Adidas, and
some others I probably don't remember, but Nikes have always
fit me the best. When I wear them it feels like I'm 'above' the
ground. I know that some people might say it's just because
that's the way they're portrayed, but I really do run better in Nikes.
Just since I've been on this site, I have worn out 5 pairs of Nike
Shox, 2 pairs of Nike 2:40's, 1 pair of 180s, 3 pairs
of Nike 360s, and although I tried the Pegasus, they just weren't for
me. I think I prefer the narrow toe box.

So anyway, I got the 360s again.

Oh, and I forgot to mention--today is a complete day off for me.


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quote:<HR>Originally posted by tonya921:
I got the same shoes as I already had, Nike 360s II. I have tried all
kinds of running shoes--Asics, New Balance, Mizuno, Adidas, and
some others I probably don't remember, but Nikes have always
fit me the best. When I wear them it feels like I'm 'above' the
ground. I know that some people might say it's just because
that's the way they're portrayed, but I really do run better in Nikes.
Just since I've been on this site, I have worn out 5 pairs of Nike
Shox, 2 pairs of Nike 2:40's, 1 pair of 180s, 3 pairs
of Nike 360s, and although I tried the Pegasus, they just weren't for
me. I think I prefer the narrow toe box.

So anyway, I got the 360s again.

Oh, and I forgot to mention--today is a complete day off for me.


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Tonya - like you I am firmly in the pro-Nike camp. Amazing how a brand inspires so much love and hate at the same time. Anyway, I've got a pair of Air Max 90s for base mileage right now (just retired my old Air Max Motos). I love the ride of the 90s but I get the feeling they aren't meant for heavy miles...they're already showing serious wear so I will probably graduate to the 180s or 360s very soon. I also use Air Zoom Haywards for hard workouts and longer races, Air Zoom Marathoners for shorter races (10k or < ), Air Kutus on the trail, and I even have a pair of Free Trainers for cross-training.

And oh yeah, for soccer...the Air Legend. $125 and worth every penny.