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21 Replies Last post: May 27, 2007 10:46 PM by JoshH   1 2 Previous Next
Click to view MSWV's profile Amateur 13 posts since
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May 21, 2007 5:25 PM

Dog Encounters??

Does anyone have any stories of Dog encounters while running? Yesterday I was running in an area I haven't run in before and a dog came running at me like it was going to eat me! This dog scared the **** out of me! It ran fast all the way to me and would have ripped my legs off had it not had a MUZZLE on. The owner came out of his house and screamed at the dog and it stopped dead in its tracks and went back into the yard. I like dogs but not strange ones. I usually won't run in a place that I think may have a dog. Does anyone have any stories?
Click to view DAVIDR262's profile Expert 46 posts since
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1. May 21, 2007 5:42 PM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
One time I was ruuning along and I heard this loud sound from behind. I turned and saw this big doberman jumping over some bushes running straight towards me. I stoped dead not knowing what to do. The dog just ran by me like I wasn' there. Recently I had a coyote do the same thing. This time I didn't hear it because I had headphones on. The only time I seem to have a problem is with small dogs. The large ones just don't seem to care.
Click to view thera4's profile Expert 57 posts since
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2. May 21, 2007 9:33 PM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
Your lucky - at least there was an owner. More times than not with me, no owner arrives at the scene to save the day.
Click to view Foxdog449's profile Amateur 30 posts since
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3. May 21, 2007 11:26 PM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
Get a Smith and Wesson Air weight 38 Special five shot. It's like a Saturday night special except it is very accurate and can be hid in the palm of your hand. Get a small holster to go with it and put it inside your running trousers but where you can draw it quickly. When you shoot the dog, if the owner says one word just drop a bullet to the left of him and just change running routes. Problem now solved and if we all did this there would be no problem. PS...make sure to get a pistol permit first so it will all be legal.......
Click to view brianfie's profile Legend 316 posts since
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4. May 22, 2007 2:05 AM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Foxdog449:
Get a Smith and Wesson Air weight 38 Special five shot. It's like a Saturday night special except it is very accurate and can be hid in the palm of your hand. Get a small holster to go with it and put it inside your running trousers but where you can draw it quickly. When you shoot the dog, if the owner says one word just drop a bullet to the left of him and just change running routes. Problem now solved and if we all did this there would be no problem. PS...make sure to get a pistol permit first so it will all be legal.......<HR>


Of couse if the owner happens to be carrying a Smith & Wesson .500 Magnum you might have bitten off more than you can chew.

-b
Click to view spartanrmd's profile Pro 96 posts since
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5. May 22, 2007 2:34 AM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
I run with a neopreme and velcro rig that holds the gun close to the body - berretta cougar - best running holster in the world

i have never had to use it on dogs yet - I run between guardposts that are about 1 k apart in some places 2-3 ks apart in others and we have a LOT of wild dogs inside the fenceline - mostly they just bark and strut their stuff and no problem.

a couple have come after me but broke contact after they had their fun - But they disappeared immediately because the guards see it happen and they take care of business after that

dogs dont bother me - its the snakes here - I posted a thread last week after i stomped on a black cobra at night when i wasnt paying attention.
Click to view merigayle's profile Legend 1,586 posts since
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6. May 22, 2007 6:03 AM in response to: MSWV
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You can carry mace with you.

I have been having problems with one runner and her off the leash dog for several months. two weeks ago, she was running in one direction and the dog the other and the dog almost ran into the busy street when it came running after me off the trails. I was so upset. I have talked (yelled) at the woman repeatedly and she acts like i am not even there. SO, after this encounter i saw some cops and asked them if they enforce the leash law and they said Heck Yeah! and i filed a police report and they went after her. They told me to call 911 next time (or the nonemergency number) and that they take this very seriously. I was really shocked at how serious they were about the dogs off the leash!
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7. May 22, 2007 9:43 AM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
One call to your local animal control department will do the trick too. Dog owners tend to change their behavior after they have to get their pooch out of doggie jail.

Paulie
Click to view drentfro's profile Amateur 38 posts since
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8. May 22, 2007 10:20 AM in response to: MSWV
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I've never tried this, but I had a cyclist friend that said it worked like a charm. Carry a battery-powered water pistol with ammonia, or ammonia or water. One squirt between the eyes and the dog stops dead in its tracks, with no real damage to the dog. I suppose this is similar to the mace idea.
Click to view evryday's profile Legend 309 posts since
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9. May 22, 2007 10:36 AM in response to: MSWV
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A dog spotted my wife and I and came at us at a full on run, growling and barking all the way. We slowed to a walk and tried to remain calm. The dog came right up to us continuing to growl and bark right at our heels. We made no sudden moves and tried not to alter our walking speed or direction...we just kept going. We tried talking to the dog nicely and stuff, and after a bit he went back to his porch. He never bit us or lunged at us. I think he just wanted us out of his territory.

Got back home, changed my pants, and never ran that route again.

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Click to view mgitzel's profile Rookie 4 posts since
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10. May 22, 2007 12:58 PM in response to: MSWV
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I never even thought of mace, that would be useful to carry around.

I frequently travel northern Saskatchewan and ended up spending the night on my last trip. I went out early in the morning for a jog and came around a corner to find a pack of about 15 wild dogs going through a garbage bin. I stopped dead in my tracks, unsure of what to do and they all stopped what they were doing and looked at me. I just turned around and went back the other way. They left me alone, but I was sure nervous the rest of my run.

Someone gave me some advice to drive out of the community for a few miles to run, you usually avoid the dogs and just have to worry about coyotes, wolves and bears, hehe.
Click to view TwentySixOrBust's profile Amateur 34 posts since
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11. May 22, 2007 4:46 PM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
When you shoot the dog, if the owner says one word just drop a bullet to the left of him and just change running routes.


Wait, so you are suggesting firing a warning shot in the vicinity of the owner? If so, then you need to clarify this as either a joke, or a sure-fire way of going to jail.

I have to deal with several dogs on my route. I originally carried some 10% OC spray that I got from a cop friend of mine - never had to use it, but I've heard that it's a significant overkill for a dog, in fact borderline animal cruelty. It would requrie a trip to the vet to be washed out. Instead I got a can of HALT dog repellent with is a lower-powered version that the dog can self-decontaminate in about 10 minutes.

If you want to carry a gun, remember several things:

- Check local laws on permits, CHL or CCW etc. If you don't have a permit, and one is required, then it could be a felony to carry in public.
- Some states require you to carry the permit too, so don't forget that.
- If you run with it exposed be sure you are ready to defend from a gun-grab.
- A dog that threatens you an public land is something that you should have the right to stop (check local laws). But don't fire a shot at a dog that is inside it's own property. Maybe dogs will run up to the property line and stop. best to run on the other side of the road as you approach those houses.
- If you shoot a dog then you WILL have to answer for your actions. First to the owner, then the police, then whereever else it goes from there. Have good answers.
- Think about this: Dog runs at you, jumps around side to side. You pull out your weapon, shoot, and miss (and you probably will miss if he's jumping around a lot). Pepper spray wil hit the ground. A bullet will hit the ground and may ricochet back up. You can't issue a stop-payment on a bullet.

If the only tool you have is a hammer, then every problem looks like a nail. Shooting a dog is an extreme measure that should be reserved for an extreme situation. No reason you can't carry Halt! and a pistol. It's easier to justify spraying a dog than shooting it. However if you are getting chased down by a pitbull the he may think pepper spray is nothing more than 'seasoning' as he chows on your leg.

I am a proud supporter to CHL/CCW laws, but you have to understand that it's a uniquie responsibility, and a liability. The difference between a cop shaking your hands, or putting cuffs on them, can be the slightest technicality. Did the dog step onto public land? Can you prove it? Did the bullet boucne up and enter a house? Were you REALLY in danger? You know that firing a gun on or over a roadway is a HUGE legal no-no, right? Towards an occupied house is worse.


If the cop rolls up and you are standing there having dropped a known vicious rabid pitbull with a single shot that was 50' into public land, and there was no risk of injury from a missed shot... Then the cop will pat you on the back.

If the cop rolls up and you are standing there after having FINALLY hit Mr Fluffles, the Blind old Bichon, with your 17th shot (the rest missed), before the dog even made it to the edge if it's property, and there are 16 ricocheted bulletholes in the daycare center behind it... Well, then you're gonna be getting patted on the back by a large and overly-friendly cellmate called Bubba. Your running training will come in handy here.
Click to view Bryan__150's profile Amateur 19 posts since
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12. May 23, 2007 12:42 PM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Foxdog449:
... Get a small holster to go with it and put it inside your running trousers but where you can draw it quickly. .......<HR>


My running trousers don't seem to have enough room for even a small holster.

Are there really people out there running with handguns stuffed in their shorts?

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13. May 23, 2007 1:47 PM in response to: MSWV
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by bradvabeach:
My running trousers don't seem to have enough room for even a small holster.

Are there really people out there running with handguns stuffed in their shorts?

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Lots - not stuffed in shorts - get a running holster
Click to view Foxdog449's profile Amateur 30 posts since
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14. May 23, 2007 3:00 PM in response to: MSWV
Re: Dog Encounters??
I was running on a National Forrest in the good ol, USA and came upon a lady that was riding horseback and had her cattle dog with her. She was loading her horse back in the trailer after her ride as i ran up the road to go past them. I was a good seventy five yds from her and her dog when the dang dog started charging me. I stopped running and slowly walked as the dog neared wide open and i began to yell NO, NO, NO , NO , as i assumed the kick the **** out of him position and he got within one inch of getting kicked then turned and trotted back to her. She yelled sorry but your in his protection perimiter......jeesh....I yelled back lady next time i'll have my pepper spray with me....i was at this point way jacked up with adrenelin. She yelled back well gooooddd like I was in the wrong. And i yelled back you need to keep that dang dog on a leash if you can't control her. She didn't care that it scared the **** out of me. She also said it had done this to many people but they never got bit. In my opinion this is like wreckless endangerment. Anyway to answer your question I WAS Kidding when i Posted lobb a bullet at the owner. The only way i would shoot a dog would be in a rural area away from houses and it tried to attack me or a pack for that matter and I would shoot them all if i could but I would never tell anyone. I'd drag them up in the woods and leave them and reload. There are numerous wild dogs in most any state in the US. and they are more dangerous than coyotes i would think for most of them don't fear man. In the state where i live I do have a permit and i can carry my weapon in my car or on me in rural areas as long as it is concealed. Shooting from a public road is against the law here but if a dog or pack attacks me then i'll have to pay the fine if caught. I run on rural dirt roads that only the wildlife and a few people travel except during hunting season and you don't meet the nicest people on the rural roads here as a general rule. Most of the time though i only have my pepper spray on me.