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780. Oct 12, 2006 12:54 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
Hello, my daughter is a runner and we just moved to Charlotte, NC. She has been training with Kenyan David Cheromei in Tennessee and I would like to find another Kenyan here for her to train with. Can anyone help me? I didn't see a forum for Charlotte runners.
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781. Oct 12, 2006 2:51 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
Runningbcooksmom - Start a new Charlotte, NC thread here. I know several of us on these boards, but you have a more legitimate reason than I do to start a new thread.
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782. Oct 13, 2006 11:37 AM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
I managed to get out to Umstead in the wee morning hours this morning - started at about 5:00am - very dark. I ran the Turkey Creeks, Gralyn loop. starting from Ebenezer Church Road. N. Turkey Creek is easier to run when it's dark and can't see the tops of the hills!

It wasn't all that creepy. I was startled by an owl flying just feet over my head, the glowing eyes from a herd of deer staring at me from the trees, and reflectors jumping out at me, but that's it.

In the 8 mile loop I only saw one other human, walking, carrying a flashlight.

I'll have to do this again. Like Bob said, it's kind of peaceful out there in the dark. Visibility was good with the Petzl and the footing on the bridle paths is great, even in the dark.


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783. Oct 14, 2006 11:07 AM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
While I generally consider the rest of you in this forum to be almost in a different league than me with your running, I've made a significant move towards catching up with you. I ran the Autism Ribbon run today, and blew away my goal of going under 30 minutes (29:18 unofficial chip time). That's almost a 45 second PR. My full race report is in the Boomer's thread.
Click to view Jay Soffian (Cool Running)'s profile Pro 170 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
784. Dec 22, 2007 3:51 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
21 miles this morning on the ATT. Started at 7:45 AM and it was about 34. Brrrr. I felt lethargic the whole run, was only hitting my target of 9:00 miles now and again. But then the last 3.5 miles an older gentleman ran past and I decided, heck, this is probably how I'll feel at the end of the marathon, gotta pick it up. So I started pacing after him and eventually caught up. I asked if he minded if I pace off of him and he said no worries. We chatted for a bit, he's running Chicago (is that next week?) with a goal of 3:30. Hey same as my goal for OBX, but it will be a BQ for him. Good luck who ever you are. :-)

Anyway, ended up running the last 3.5 miles at about 7:30 pace (last mile at 7:10) so I ended up with an average pace of 9:12 or so. Not too bad considering.

I hadn't run the ATT in a couple weeks ... some of the trees are starting to turn colors and it's really pretty out there right now. Now's the time to get out and run the trails.

I'm probably going to run the inside-out half next weekend. Going to aim for 7:30 pace I think, which would be a PR. We'll see.

JDF - how'd your 5K go yesterday?

rlemert - congrats on your PR.

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Sep 30, 2007
785. Dec 22, 2007 3:51 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
Jaysoffian,

Sounds like you had a pretty good run. Man you must have really kicked it in on those last few miles.

The autism ribbon run went very well. It was an absolutely gorgeous morning. About 42 degrees and totally sunny with a faint breeze. At the start I noticed that most of the Raleigh Running Club was not present so I decided to take a spot right up on the starting line. That gave me the best shot to get a decent first mile. I was able to hold a sub 6 minute pace for the first half mile so I wasn't in anyone's way. At the 1/4 mile mark a young teen in long pants and a sweat shirt decided he was going to try to pass me with an all out sprint. He passed me doing about a 5 minute mile. He only got about 100 yards ahead of me and started to fade VERY quickly. You should have seen his face when I blew passed him with the 80+ pound double jogger on my way to a 5:58 first mile. The course was hillier than I remembered. However, it is still the flatest fastest course in Raleigh. My first mile was slower than I had anticipated because it had a medium hill at the end. The next half mile was downhill though. I was able to really open it up then. I actually passed 3 or 4 strong runners on that downhill. Then the tough part came up. It is a 1 mile low to medium hill. I knew that everyone I just passed was going to overtake me now so I just tried to hold a steady pace. I missed the second mile marker so I didn't get my split. I just kept my head down and pushed with everything I had. There is a short steap hill at the last half mile and then the last quarter mile is all downhill. A couple of people that I have run with before were definitely pushing it to pass me up that hill. When I reached what felt like the summit of Everest I decided I wasn't going to give up on my goal of a sub 19. I just took off with a 1/4 to go. I passed a few people on that long downhill but as I came up to the line I knew the 19 had passed. I ended up with a 19:16 and I won my age group outright. I was pleased that I had blasted another 26 seconds off my PR but I really wanted that sub 19. Oh well I guess I need to train more. I have slipped to less than 10 mpw now. I am going to change that though!

Overall it was a great race. The winner came in arround 14:40 and the first woman who was third overall had a 17:10 I think. FAST RACE!

I hope to see you all at the inside out half and 10K. I will run the 10K just because I want to run with the kids. If you see me give me a holler!

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21 miles this morning on the ATT.
Anyway, ended up running the last 3.5 miles at about 7:30 pace (last mile at 7:10) so I ended up with an average pace of 9:12 or so. Not too bad considering.

I'm probably going to run the inside-out half next weekend. Going to aim for 7:30 pace I think, which would be a PR. We'll see.

JDF - how'd your 5K go yesterday?

rlemert - congrats on your PR.

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787. Oct 16, 2006 5:22 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
Where are the standings for the series? I can only find them for the first race?
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Dec 14, 2007
789. Dec 22, 2007 3:51 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by JasonsDrivingForce:
Those hills are brutal with the stroller.<HR>


You're referring to the inside-out race? That goes up into Umstead and turns around at the airport lookout right? Oh boy, that will be fun.

Totally unrelated, your member name is Yngwie-inspired, yes? I just got that.

Congrats on your 5K.

j.

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790. Dec 22, 2007 3:51 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
Yea, I was talking about the inside out race. However, I am not running the half marathon. I am running the 10K which goes up Weston parkway. I think the 10K course is even hillier than the half. I ran it last year with a 50 pound single stroller and I was about 3 minutes slow. I am in better shape this year but the extra 30 pounds will make a huge difference on those long steep hills. Should be fun, don?t you think?

Not sure what you meant about the username? Were you asking me or someone else?


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You're referring to the inside-out race? That goes up into Umstead and turns around at the airport lookout right? Oh boy, that will be fun.

Totally unrelated, your member name is Yngwie-inspired, yes? I just got that.

Congrats on your 5K.

j.

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791. Oct 17, 2006 7:31 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
quote:<HR>Originally posted by JasonsDrivingForce:
Not sure what you meant about the username? Were you asking me or someone else?<HR>


Oh well, I guess not inspired by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Force[/URL" target="_blank"> then.

j.
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792. Dec 22, 2007 3:51 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
Well it looks like the inside out 10K and Half marathon have a new course. They took out the big hill at the turn arround of the half and moved the start line to the inside out store. The problem is now the course actually finishes about 84 feet above the start! I thought that courses could only be certified if they started within a certain horizontal distance from the start and within a certain elevation distance from the start? Is that only for courses that the start is above the finish? Oh well these courses are going to be murderous now! There are some very long steep hills on the 10K now. The winning time was only a 34:00 for the 10K last year. I would expect that to go up to a 35:00 or 36:00 this year. That is really slow. It is going to be tough with the stroller. My wife isn?t running this race so I might have to leave my daughter with her. I am not sure if I can even finish the race with the double stroller. Here are the course maps.

10K
http://ncroadrunners.org/IOClassic/images/ios10-8.jpg[/URL" target="_blank">

Half
http://ncroadrunners.org/IOClassic/images/ioshm4.jpg[/URL" target="_blank">


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793. Oct 18, 2006 10:50 AM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
I thought the finish for the Inside-Out races was still in the same place as last year, but the turn-arounds were moved. Still, I did the half last year (I'm doing the 10k this year), and I remember thinking it was a royal pain making the last three miles mostly up-hill. (In spite of this, though, I actually had negative splits last year - probably the best race I ran all year.)

I'm also not certain about this, but based on comments I saw in another thread somewhere I think there's a difference between a course being "certified" and being "record eligible". The comment was describing a course as being certified but not record eligible because it had an excessive vertical drop. Based in this I think "certified" just means that the distance has been measured in accordance with certain standards and found to be accurate. "Record eligible" would therefore mean that the course fulfills some additional standards, such as not having an excessive vertical drop.

I guess if you can set a record with a net vertical climb, more power to you.
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794. Dec 22, 2007 3:51 PM in response to: Guest
Re: Raleigh, NC runners!!!!
Everything you want to know answered here -- http://www.usatf.com/events/courses/certification/[/URL" target="_blank">

In particular, from
http://www.usatf.com/events/courses/certification/manual/appendix-d.asp[/URL" target="_blank">

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The rules on eligibility for USATF records make a distinction between courses with start-to-finish separation less than or greater than 30% of the race distance (such as 1.5 km for a 5 km race). If it appears that your course is close to this threshold, try to determine its separation more accurately. Your course can be certified either way; however, if the separation exceeds 30%, official records can be accepted only when there isn't a significant tailwind during the race.
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Note: We are most interested in the difference in elevation between the Start and Finish; therefore, it is more important to determine this difference accurately than to get all of the individual elevations above sea level just right. Eligibility for records depends on whether the course has a net drop in elevation exceeding 1/1000 of the race distance (such as 10 meters for a 10 km race). If it appears that your course is close to this threshold, try to determine its drop more accurately. Your course can be certified either way, and will also be eligible for USATF "best" times either way; however, it must not drop more than 1 m/km in order to be eligible for official USATF "records."
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