Check this out! It is a gmaps for the Nike course this weekend. If you turn on the elevation markers then you can see where the big hills are. And yes there are some big hills on this course.

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by brook trout:
Yikes. I like that 100' elevation change between 1.5 and 2.5 miles.<HR>

If you think the Nike one is bad. Check out the Southern Village 5K. It rises about 150 feet in half a mile and at one point you go up about 100 feet in a quarter of a mile! That course is nuts!

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Finally, here is the Raleigh Turkey Trot map and elevations. This is the final race in the 2nd empire grand prix series.

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Good luck, JDF!

Where are you going to do your long runs? I'm going to do my marathon specific runs on the Wake section of the Tobacco trail down there in Cary/Apex. It's as close as I can get to the surface I'll be running on for my goal marathon.

That won't start for a few months, probably after Christmas. For now, I'm running long at Shelley lake and Umstead. The marathon prep runs'll be 20 milers with some (up to 15 miles) at marathon goal pace.

Maybe we can get a group together (I know Jay's running the same marathon with a similar time goal).



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Well I did the Nike race today which was the fourth race in the Second Empire Grand Prix series. The conditions were ideal the course was not. A water main broke a few minutes before the start and flooded part of the street. It wasn't that bad though. We started out and the field was not as big as I thought it was going to be. They had billed this race as one of the premiere events in Raleigh. I guess they forgot to check when the NY marathon was going to be run. It looked like a lot like everyone stayed home for that or they were actually in it. Where were all the pros(Besides the local ones)? Anyway we got started and the whole first mile was downhill except a few short uphills. I started off fast because I knew what was coming later on. I was right on the pace I wanted. I had a 5:32 first mile with both kids! I had a 9:38 for the first half so I was still doing ok. However, that is when we hit the hill. Now I have run up steeper(Much steeper in fact) but this hill was deceptive. It just kept going and going. With the stroller as heavy as it is now(85+ pounds), it just felt like a ton of bricks. It is amazing how much it slows me down now. I went from the sub 6 pace to way over 8 in just a few feet. I struggled up the hill and when I got to the top I felt like I still had something left. I picked up the pace and had a decent last half mile. However, the last 200 yards was uphill again so that really hurt me. I ended up with a 20:54. I was actually pleased with that. That was a decent effort with the stroller.

I just wanted to say good job to rlemert. You had a pretty strong finish and it looked like you set your PR by a good bit. I also had a good chat with swatkins. I am not sure how you finished up though.

Congrats to everyone who will place in the Grand Prix Series. It is pretty tough to run consistently over so many races. Great job. See you at the final race!

Oh yea the final race(The Turkey trot) has a new course. It starts near the Inside out in Cary now. Looks like another hilly 8K course but I am not sure. Hope to see you guys on Turkey day!


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quote:<HR>Originally posted by jaysoffian:
The other mid-week runs should all be easy (as in you could hold a conversation with someone) pace. Okay, so maybe that was more than one piece of advice, but hey it's all totally free and worth what you paid for it.

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That is great advice and I definitely plan on adhearing to it. I have already started to completely revamp my pace when I run without the stroller. I will definitely take it easy on the first few long runs. I might pick it up just a little on the last few to make sure that I can do it though. I would much rather get hurt here than get hurt during the actual marathon 170 miles away when I have to drive home by myself. Anyway, I will defintiely make sure I run smart. Thanks for the advice. I tend to go all out to soon because that is the only way to run fast with the stroller. I need someone to keep me in check.

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Yea I don?t think I am going to run with the double jogger much longer. It is starting to get too heavy. I really started to feel it on those hills yesterday. My quads were cramping and killing me during the race. However, there is not much else I can do. My wife runs the races also but she doesn?t really want to use the stroller during the race. Therefore, if I want to race I need to take them. My son is getting to the point where he can do a mile but he would not be able to do a 5K. I think I will just try to run the Old reliable and the Turkey trot with the stroller. After that I will do the marathon. Then I probably won?t race again until the spring. I am really not sure what I will do in the spring. They will be way too heavy to push then(90+ pounds).

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by rlemert:
While I was waiting for the start of the Old Reliable 10k last year, a lady that was waiting with me commented that she'd rather be running the 5k but she lost the coin toss. Her husband got to run the 5k while she watched the kids, and she had to run the 10k while he watched the kids. That obviously won't work at events like yesterday, but you might consider it (if you haven't already) for other events.<HR>

Yes great thought. Except for my wife is playing violin for the Raleigh Civic Symphony concert during the Old Reliable(Her concert always seems to fall on the same Sunday as the old reliable every year). So not only do I have both the kids for the race but I will also have to take care of them by myself before and after the race. That after having them all week by myself because my wife is out of town. Man, my life is pretty hectic right now! Good luck at the race next week. Will you be running the 10K or the 5K?

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