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Click to view Egret's profile Legend 408 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM

40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th

Hi all. Okay Here we go!
Shout out to tomwhite. Fudge Fudge!!!
And Welcome Back to jtv!

". . . Pace yourself so you can face yourself
Run hard, you really only race yourself, yo. . . "
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The Holism of Training
The holism of training encompasses 2 ideas. First, training itself must be balanced and varied; second, what happens in the hours that we are not running also has a major influence on how we run. It is vital to realize that everything affects how you run and train. Unfortunately, only the professional athletes are ever able to manipulate their lives so completely that running becomes their central focus. For the rest of us, running must compete with various other activities. To do our best, we must first recognize these enemies and try to keep their interference with our running to a minimum.

The 4 factors that need careful attention when you are training hard are diet, sleep, other physical effort during the day, and work stress.
When training heavily, I like to reduce my total caloric intake and avoid fatty foods and red meat. I have no idea why this is necessary. However, I was glad to read that Galloway (1983) has also found that fatty foods seems to impair running performance and that this effect becomes more marked with age.

When training hard, I generally sleep an additional hour per night on those days that I train hard or long, and I also try to nap for an hour on both Saturday and Sunday afternoons.

As my work is totally cerebral, I have no need to avoid physical effort during the day. But those who are required to do some physical work during the day should, if possible, try to limit the amount of that work, especially when training hard or when preparing for a major race.

Finally, avoiding excessive work stress, such as overtime, excessive travel, and endless meetings, is another essential training trick.


From "Lore of Running" by Tim Noakes, MD

rbbmoose: 85.2 A very solid 85.2. And a PR by ten miles!!! Way to run Ray.
nighthawk42: 63.3 Good Crikey Mikey! 40 miles over two days. Is it taper time yet?
perchcreek: 61.2 Continues to ride the red-line with care. The PF complied and lets him get the heavy mileage in this week. Take care you.
runwun: 61.2 4x10 milers and then an easy short day followed by a 80% effort 5km one day and a strong half marathon effort the next day. Zowie.
rasmussenmp: 57.2 Um, did I read this right? This week was a taper for a marathon week and a recovery from a marathon last week? Wow. Zowie. http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Forum13/HTML/009341.shtml[/URL" target="_blank">
Hits HR goal bang on at Shamrock Marathon, Virginia Beach, Va (goal: run at HR150-155, hoping for 3:35) actual: 3:36:17, 8:15 pace, Ave HR 152, 15-20 mph winds. See his RR:
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Soundrunner1012: 55 A nice tempo mixed in with a couple of long runs separated by a rest day. Solid.
joplus: 54.8 Prs in a 12km, (50:54). A tough distance to race. Some allergy issues interrupt the track w/out. Ramping up to 60 mile weeks soon.
mcsolar99: 53 Ahhhhh, the healing touch. Looking really strong Emcee!!
WillRunForBeer: 52.9 Gosh Lou, Have you compared your training logs from year to year recently? You are looking so solid. Huzzah!!
tallrunner: 52 Staying home instead of trying not to race at Around the Bay is a sold decision. No way you could hold back from 100% effort dude. Boston is it, Tall.
timlooney: 49.4 There was no trail mix out there on the long run? Maybe pack a snack next time. . .
jjchaney: 49.6 Enjoyed a warm run day during the week . Had some gut issues at the Churchills Half. Sorry about the Stoopid Gut Trouble.
wa5yom:49.5 Nice MP workout Tim. Good idea to be flexible with the schedule, esp this close to goal. Keep the right perspective and soothe that R shin.
Sans Souci: 48.5 miles (78km) Super Sans Souci is working hard. Racing nicely and gearing up in great style for Boston Baby!! Your coach and the rest of us are expecting a blow out race coming up!
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lyndenrunner: 48.4. Looking really solid Gordon. Nice pacing!
jdmom3: 45.5 Things are flowing again nicely. Endurance is back solidly and Meg is rebuilding. Huzzah!
DaveinAA: 45 Easing back into some tempo work listening to his healing ham. He?ll be running 400Ms again soon.
hermosaboy: 44 Nice to see Hermosaboy out having fun in the puddles, dashing around with the dog and chatting on the run. Too bad about the aborted time trial though.
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jtv: 42 HUZZAH jtv!!!!! Welcome back first time since August. Puts on a wicked sushi buffet PLUS cracks off a greta LR to land a solid place here in the 40/40. Way to go B-Day Bud!
smpankowski : 41.4 Slides in a 10km and a hugh 15 miler mid-week LR
Caddisfli : 41 Yay!! Welcome back C-fly! A nice 17 mile LR tips him over 40 for the week.
Karl Rysted: 40.45 Runs some nice sandwiches. Nice long run.
Breger1 : 40.6 Changing up the leg usage has our intrepid Host Bill Bruneger feeling spry. Huzzah!
naphtali: 40.35 11th consecutive week >= 40!!!! Doesn?t sound at al displeased that his son beat him at the half marathon he ran since he ran dang fine himself.

MIA:
ptsmantua: 25 in progress. . . . Hello um, Phil?
winejunky:

Free Pass Line:
busiman: 32 Being judicious in the face of a ham/ITB issue. Puts in a nice half marathon for a Boston warm up. Time to ease off and get 100% healthy.
Fortunate One: 27 S?okay I need company on the bench. We?ll be back! Who was it that said ?Stay healthy and happy; Keep running??
goofyguy1958: 30.04 Oh dear, a tough week. Yes, the extra wear and tear in day in and day out life events count as hill work outs with all the ups and downs.
Ileneforward: 25 Sidelined with a nasty bug. S?okay Ilene, the break will have your legs feeling sproinky when you hit the roads again.
TheProFromDover: 33 Run Miles, 3.5M swimming and 16M biking. By some funny cross-training calculations ? that Crafty Cragi actually does 48.5 equivalent running miles.
Peter NC: 21.27 Welcome back. Rebuilding carefully after recent surgery.
hollys4874: Tapering and cleared for take-off. A lot of fans waiting to hear about her marathon debut
Egret: Feh, I don?t want to talk about it.

Edited to polish some stones


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1. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Thanks Egret!

I've been dealing with plantar faciitis on my right foot. Last week's intensity did not help but the easy 20 miler Sunday did help! I'm calling last week peak (61 miles) and I'm eliminating the speed work this week. Just lots of easy miles this week.


Boston Plan: Pfitzinger's 8 weeks between Marathons
Weeks to go: 4 weeks from today!
Training pace: 8:00
Boston pace: 8:30
Miles this week: 57 (or so..)


Mon - REST (actually walked 4 miles with 1.3 miles backwards jogging.. maybe I should subtract the backwards miles from my total )
Tue - 6 mi Recovery (did 6 mi @9:41 AHR 146)
Wed - 6 mi Recovery (did [b] 6 mi @8:51 PF sharp pain = limp)
Thu - 15 mi m-LR (80 min elliptical (20pm + 60am))
Fri - 6 mi Recovery (rest - Dr said I could run Boston)
Sat - 5 mi recovery (60 min Elliptical AHR 153)
Sun - 20 mi LR (3:15:00 elliptical rolling hills AHR 145 Max 160)

Total: 12 mi running but 7.1 hrs total training - Please put me on the DL This will be a cross training taper! No 40/40 for a long while Boston is still a go.

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2. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Thanks Egret,

Mon-10K@7:42
Tue-Rest
Wed-8m@8:21
Thur-9m@7:44
Fri-9m@7:44
Sat-9m@7:35
Sun-9m@7:23

Total=50.2 miles

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3. Mar 19, 2007 9:15 AM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Free pass please, only 39 mi. scheduled for this week.

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4. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
The smell of Boston is in the air. Key is not to get over anxious!

Monday, 3-19: 6 easy miles on the treadmill. Work out the kinks from yesterday.
Tuesday, 3-20: AM - 8 easy miles. PM - 12.5 miles with an hour at marathon pace. Very good hilly workout.
Wednesday, 3-21: 10.5 miles
Thursday, 3-22: 10 miles
Friday, 3-23: Rest day.
Saturday, 3-24: 8 easy miles
Sunday 3-25: Hilly 21 miles avg 6:38 pace. Easy start, got through the hills, felt good. Ready for Boston.

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5. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Thanks again for doing this, E!

Goal Race: Vermont City Marathon 5/27
Weeks Left: 9 (as of Sunday)
Training: Pfitz 24 week / 55 mile
Mesocycle: 2 Lactate Threshold + Endurance

Goal for week: 47 (0,5,8,0,11,7,16)

Mon: rest/strength
Tue: 5.1 easy 42:24 (8:16/mi)
Wed: 8.1 w/ 6x600m (2:24 avg) 1:02 (7:41/mi)
Thu: 11.1 mdlong 1:32 (8:16/mi)
Fri: rest/strength
Sat: 7.1 GA w/ 10x100m striders 56:50 (8:02/mi)
Sun: 16.1 w/ 6 @ MP (7:50/mi) 2:10 (8:06/mi)

TOTAL: 47.5 miles

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6. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Thnaks E!!! You are the placeholder

T-minus 4 wks til AR50 and this is the last hard week. I'm starting to feel the affects of the long week-ends....breathe deep....breathe deep...

M---0.0
T---9.1
W--5.0
Th--9.0
F---0.0
Sa--27.0
Su--24.0

Total 74.1

A new weekly PR at 74.1; a new 2 day PR of 51; a new 3 wk PR of 200

Hang in there, Boston taper starts soon!!!

Mike

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7. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Thanks E.

Here?s the results:

Mon = 8.7 ?done - off to a good start
Tue = 4.8 done
Wed = 6.6 CYO track practice - in the form of a lot of speed work
Thurs = 4.4 miles
Fri = 4.7 CYO track practice
Sat = 11.2
Sun = OFF DAY

Total miles run = just made it with 40.4 total miles. Next week is a down week - plan is for right around 30 - so may I please have a pass.

Great running all

Mike ?GG? B

Edited to fix the Freudian slip of "miles ruin" instead of actual miles run.

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8. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Thanks egrd <cough, cough>

Mon - sick done
Tues - 2 slow miles at track done
Wed - 5 miles done
Thu - 6 miles done
Fri - 2 miles done
Sat - 10 miles done
Sun - 10 miles done

total = 35 miles


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9. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Thanks Egret! I'm upping the mileage a bit this week and hoping to hit 50. As a result, no tempo or speed work.

Sunday: 6 recovery (45:00)
Monday: off
Tuesday: 8 miles GA (57:30)
Wednesday: 5 miles easy (39:00) / lift
Thursday: 10 miles (first 5 miles at 7:30 pace, then 7:20, 7:10, 7:02, 6:55, 6:35. Total time 1:12:30)
Friday: 3 miles easy (23:00)
Saturday: 18 miles long (2:10:32)

Total: 50

Meg




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10. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
looking for 60 this week; vacation week, so lots of yardwork and some cycling.

m: 5.5 (8:11)
t: 8 (8:25)
w: 10.5 incl. 4x1k(30s), 4min rest, 4x1k(30s) 3:46, 3:59 avgs
t: 3 (8:52)
f: 5 (8:40)
s: 8.5 incl. 5k (19:08; 6:10, 6:10, 6:09, :39)
s: 23 incl. 18 ez, 3 (7:20), 2 ez (8:10 avg pace)

total: 63.5. but mostly i remember the 32 hours of digging...

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11. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Egret, Healthy and Happy is the name of my game. A restful weekend (22 hours in a car) set me up for an early start to the week.

My plan (done):
M---6
T---8
W--6 along beautiful Portland (OR) Waterfront Park
Th--0
F---0
Sa--10 back home
Su--20

Total--50 First time for this milestone. WoooHooo!

I envy those who get to taper after this weekend. Focusing on the positive, though, I have a littlel more time to get stronger before my taper.

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12. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
Egret, Thank you for this (yes I will take my turn shortly) hope you are continuing to recover as.Boston is calling your name.

A tough week coming up...

M - Rest (done)
T- Intervals 10M (whatever torture device my coach puts in front of me) (done)
W- 10m easy (done)
T-6 (done)
F- rest
S - 4X5K at MP (6:50 miles) with 1 minute rest in between.
S- 2 hours running (17), 2 hours on the bike, and then voraciously reading results on the web page to see how all my friends and competitors did on Around the Bay.
Total: 57 miles

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13. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
Re: 40/40 Tally and Week Ending March 25th
egrd..I just posted last weeks result on the other thread...sorry for the delay.

Pfitzinger: 16wk/55 mpw
Week 3, 12 weeks into this new training program.
Goal - Boston Marathon, April 17

E Pace - 9:35 - 10:58
LR pace - 8:35 - 8:58
MLR pace - 8:35 - 8:58
GA - 8:30 - 9:00
MP - 7:48
Tempo - 7:20 - 7:35
VO2Max - 6:48 - 6:54

Monday Rest - Complete
Tuesday Recovery + Speed 5 miles with 6X100m strides - Complete
Wednesday VO2max 10 miles with 4X1200m@5K pace; jog 2 minutes minimum between - Complete, only did 3 repeats but pace was 6:46 for the first 2 and 6:30 for the last, way tooo windy
Thursday Rest - Complete ran Fridays run
Friday General Aerobic 10 miles - Complete, Thursday's rest
Saturday Recovery 4 miles - Ran Sundays LR, verall average pace 8:39, possible record (or near) 20 mile training run
Sunday LR 20 miles - 5 Mile hill training
Plan = 49 miles - Actual 50 miles

This weeks goal: Rain is in the forecast for the entire week which could create many treadmill runs, yuck. My shins are a bit sore, so I might have to back off on this weeks speed work: I will wait and see. Saturdays LR is my last before Boston; I will try to make this a progressive run. The excitement is building.
Summary - Great week......really fast intervals followed by a STRONG final 20 miler then some hard hill work. The taper begins

Tim,
Ardmore, OK.

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14. Dec 22, 2007 7:57 PM in response to: Egret
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Hi Egret! (waving madly!!!!!)

This week went exactly as planned. I am beginning to feel the positive effects of the training. Particularly in regards to recovery time.
S-Rest
M-4
T-9
W- 4
Th-9
Fr-Rest
Sa- 18

Total= 44
This is the last long run before I hit my three 20 mile runs.

cheers all,
cfli

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