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Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM

40/40 Tally plus week ending April 8

Hi all,

Sorry to get this up so late. You know how life gets in the way, right?
While you're mad at me for being tardy, I'll start making noise now for a alternate host for the thread. I have an even busier schedule coming up and could use a tag-team.
Cheers all
Egret

Light quotes for those who need a lift.

"It was like she stole my grandma's purse or something, I was just chasing after her, just reeling her in." ?Brigham Young-Hawai'i sophomore Chelsea Smith (NCAA DII x-c champ)

It hurts up to a point and then it doesn't get any worse.
Ann Trason

hermosaboy : 70.8 Did a HHHHUGH LR somewhere nicer than where we are. (Hermosa Beach) The 4 Hs: Hot Humid Hilly Hawaii. Oh and he nabs a distance PR while on vacation. There is something disturbing about that.
mcsolar99: 66 (Is this right emcee?) Has an incredible adventure. Read here if you haven?t already. http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Forum13/HTML/009485.shtml[/URL" target="_blank">
runwun: 65.6 A nice half marathon 1:21:42 followed by a hilly ten miler. Good for the leg strength.
timlooney : 60.9 Switched out LR from Sunday to Saturday and misses the Martian Marathon. It would be interesting to know how you run these (I assume as a supported training run?) but pace-wise , what would be your goal pace? Is it constant? --
TomD : 60.6 Over three days. Yup , this is how it breaks down : M: 8.2 miles S: - 26.2 miles S: - 26.2 miles. Wow Tom.
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joplus: 60.1 mixing up the run schedule to run in the evenings as opposed to the dark dark early am. Building up solid strength and endurance and throws in a nice half-marathon (1:33:30, 5F, 1masters) Woot!
smpankowski : 57..7 Yes Steve there is wisdom to the ten percent increase model. Listen well.
jjchaney: 53 One more heavy week and then the Boston Taper Club.
rbbmoose: 50.8 Time to back off a bit and listen to the unhappy body? Was this upcoming week the last eighty? Hang in there.
DaveinAA: 50 Strong tempo, solid LR and a Saturday EZZZZZZZZ. Looks like he fell asleep. Biggest weeks since January and that ham sandwich thing.
jdmom3: 49 Judging by the even pace of those tempo miles, speed is coming back Meg. Attagirl. Endurance seems to have been recouped very quickly.
nighthawk42: 48.1 The pattern of bigger mileage back to back after a rest day continues but with a taper involved.
dshclio : 47.6 Welcome aboard. Knocks his old marathon PR out of the park. Woot! Didn?t see a RR?
naphtali: 47.5 No further details were offered. It is what it is.
tallrunner: 46.1 Um, Tall ? don?t hit me - but. . . did coach say anything about you running down those MP repeats? If your marathon pace is 6:45 min/mile, shouldn?t you be running as close to that and not one second over or under every step of the way? Stop thinking about the Turkeynator, Man.
Karl Rysted: 44.6 includes a huge marathon PR. Huzzah!!
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rosecoloredglasses : 43.3 Looky ? it?s Rosie!!!! Huzzah! Why, I thought this was the 43.3/43.3 club! Please read Rose?s RR if you have not. It is simply and richly inspiring.
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WillRunForBeer: 41.6 Comes back from the red line edge of over training to run a very strong ten miler. This is good stuff Lou. As runners we have to know when to step back from the edge. Atta Boy. You?ll be leaving me in your dust.
rasmussenmp: 41.5 Gearing up for the Eugene marathon. Looking consistent despite the life interruptus.
egret: 41.5 Coming back. Introducing a bit of speed again and the leg is holding up. Did about 11 miles at 7:59 pace on Sunday. Pleased with that.
Breger1 : 40.7 Hi Brunger. Sorry you?re feeling a little pst-marathon let down. It happens to lots of us. Do you have some fun goal races in mind to get yourself back into anticipatory mode Bill? A body likes a goal, a change of pace, running new rotes, with different folks etc.
predawnrunner : 40.2 This woman is the epitome of patience and smart recovery. For her careful recovery she is rewarded with a ten-miler PR. Huzzah!! And atta Grrrrl!!! RR?
Peter NC: 40.1 Second week in a row and continuing to recover with grace. Huzzah!
Free Pass Line:
lyndenrunner: 39.4 Fine tuning Gordon. That leg turnover must be getting strong and reliable.
robp : 39.35 Complaining quad through a hilly half.
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Caddisfli : 39 You rebel runner see fly. You?re ruining our bell curve. Some big twenties are coming over the horizon. He?ll be ready for ?em.
goofyguy1958: 37.7 LR and too mulch digging has GG ouching on Sunday.
busiman: 36 What?s really encouraging here is that the hammy stayed quiet through several hilly runs culminating in one through the Newton hills on pace. Attaboy.
Fortunate One: 35 Big Sir is gearing up for Big Sur this month.
dtoce : 29 We will see him here next week. Nice guesses on the pics Dr. Dale and thanks for the additional info. It?s astonishing how far women have come in such a short time. I hear you on the quad thing. Me too. ART = Ouch.
Tetsujin30 : Aw, that?s disappointing, Tet. Better a DNS than to beat yourself up out there and make things worse.
wa5yom: In transit? Has a little trouble hitting pace in intervals but pulls it out nicely for the tune up race.
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perchcreek: Riding downtown on the elliptical ? taking care of the PF.
Soundrunner1012: Hey Soundrunner, you can stay on. Runners who are in Boston taper mode or recovery mode can still post. We?re interested in the whole ride.
jtv: backing off with his eye on a half. Provides cycle support alongside some buddies doing the Ocean Drive Marathon.



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1. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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didn't make it last week, but I have visions of sugarplums dancing in my head..I mean, visions of 40 + miles...

Egret-I'm so glad to see you out and about on the roads! Congratulations, girl. Very fun pics last week.


Su-9 miles total-4 with DW and 5 later on-ending with 1x1/2mile in 3:25. Fastest running from me in a long time
M-5 easy with 8 strides x 20 breaths (~200M)
T-5 recovery
W-off (the mind said 'run' but the body said 'don't')
Th-9 with 16x200M fast(~40secs) and 16x200M jog--felt good to run fast again-leg tightened a lot later, lots of stretching/ice massage...
F-8 easy with 4 miles miniprogression which happened by accident 9:00>>7:30 , then ran recovery to end
Sa-7 with 8 strides x20breaths (~100M's)
total=43 miles!!
yeah, baby, I'm back!

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2. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Peak Week
Monday, 4-2: 8.5 easy miles. Last "bad" meal of hot chicken wings and fries covered in cheese and bacon. Yum.
Tuesday, 4-3: 11 miles with 7x1 mile at 6:07. 2 min recovery between. Felt good.
Wednesday, 4-4: 9 miles @ 7:01 pace on the Akron Marathon course.
Thursday, 4-5: 7 x 1 mile repeats inside today. Cold and windy outside. Felt stiffer than I did on Tuesday.
Friday, 4-6: Rest day
Saturday, 4-7: 9 miles @ 6:38 pace. Felt good.
Sunday, 4-8: 11 miles progressive run.
Total = 59.5

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3. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Thanks Egret,

Not sure if I'm supposed to include the miles I walk with my husband, but I'll put them in separately.

Mon - 2 mile walk, 2 mile run
Tues - 7 mile run
Wed - 2 mile walk, 6 mile run
Thurs - 2 mile walk, 7.4 mile run w/hill repeats
Fri - 2 mile walk
Sat - 7.2 mile run
Sun - 15.1 mile run

44.7 miles running
8 miles walking


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4. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Thanks Egret. I'm not entirely sure how this week will wind up - I'm playing a lot of it by ear. Shuffling things around because I will be out of town this weekend.

Sunday: 7 miles easy (53:00)
Monday: 4 miles easy (untimed)
Tuesday: 8 miles with some fartlek (56:01)
Wednesday: 8 sproinkless miles (1:00)
Thursday: off day
Friday: 20 long and slow (2:27)
Saturday: 7 recovery (53:30)

Total: 54

Meg




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5. Apr 2, 2007 2:04 PM in response to: Egret
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Thanks E

Dale - I've never seen strides based upon breaths - I'd like to hear the thinking behind that.

here's my plan:

M - rest
T - recovery 45 to 60 minutes
W - 60 to 75 minutes easy running
T - 60 to 90 minutes w/20 min at tempo
F - 45 to 60 minutes recovery
S - 1.5 to 2 hour trail run w/ last 3 miles @ MP
S -rest

hopefully that will get me at least 40
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6. Apr 2, 2007 3:20 PM in response to: Egret
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I'll take a free pass, please. I'll be running 4-5 hours easy, starting tomorrow (Tuesday) and gradually working my way up to a 1-2 hour run this weekend.

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7. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Taper mode now...I will return after Boston..
AND, thanks to everyone on this thread, you have helped me concentrate which has resulted in a great 16 weeks of Marathon training, if not my best then close to it.

I just posted last weeks results..sorry for the delay...

In the mean time...Good Luck everyone...

Tim,
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8. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Thanks again Egret:

Mon-10K@7:54
Tue-15K@7:42
Wed-9m@8:03
Thur-Rest
Fri-15K@7:38
Sat-15K@7:29+3.25m@7:35
Sun-20m@7:45

Total=66.35 miles

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9. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Goal:......................Just the facts mam:
Sun-0
Mon-8...............................8.7 new record training pace
Tue-12..............................10.05
Wed-12.............................0
Thur-.................................0
Fri-8..................................0
Sat-20...............................18.25
Total =60............................37.00

Thanks egrd

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10. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Not going to make it this week. As I can see now I will only get 38 miles in. Hope your generous and give me a pass for this week and next. This taper is tough to take.

M - rest
T- 10 hill intervals oh joy (done) more than half below MP
W- rest (done)
T- 8 (done) with a third at MP
F 10 (done) EZ
S-0 (done)
S 10 with a third at MP (done)

Ooops only 38 (Taper)


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11. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by timlooney:
Dale - I've never seen strides based upon breaths - I'd like to hear the thinking behind that.
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Tim-
Nothing dramatic about this plan as I'm coming back from an injury and am starting some faster formwork. Strides are good. They don't need to be any specific distance but I like the time frame of 35 to 45 seconds, which is about 40-45 breaths for me. I know this as I've done lots of 200M repeats at the track and know the time it takes for me to run at 1M RP, which equals about 40 seconds or ~5:20/mile. Strides and reps will let me start to incorporate speed and then I'll follow with fartleks. Lately I've been doing only 20-25 Breaths which equals ~100M or so.

I did not have a watch on that day and am doing everything 'by feel'. I had decided that if it was going well, I'd finish with strides during the last 2 miles of my run (=8x~40s strides in my logbook). I know the course and every 0.25 miles of the entire loop from running this loop endlessly over the last 3 years...It's so easy and familiar to me now that I just count the breaths as I pick up the pace and ease into them, focus on form and hit the desired number then throttle back.

Just another way to do it.
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Are you still doing those trail runs/races? Any ultras on the horizon? It looks like your training has stayed very strong. Congrats.

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12. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Goal: VCM in 7 weeks
Mileage over speed this week - especially on Sunday.

Mon: upper-body weights, 30 min
Tues: 8 miles easy, 9:56
Wed: 10 med-long @ 10:16
Thu: bike 30 min, strength-train 10 min
Fri: 7 with 1k intervals, 9:13 overall, 8:21 avr on intervals
Sat: 32 min elliptical, 30 min upper-body weights
Sun: 18 miles, 10:11 pace

Total: 43.1 miles
Speedier than I had planned... I'm feeling good!

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13. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Thanks Egret: You know you are my hero!! It's so good to see you back on the run!
The plan starts its peak this week with the first of three 50 mile weeks with a cut back in between each.

Sun: Cross
M: 5 miles
Tu: 10 miles
Wed: 5 miles
Thursday: Rest
Friday: 10 Miles
Saturday: 20 Miles
Total: 50 Miles

This week went exactly as planned for distance and pace making it my longest week ever, Friday and Saturday were highest two day total and Saturday was my first 20 miler ever. Nice to get some small achievements during training.
cheers all,
cfli



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14. Dec 22, 2007 8:58 PM in response to: Egret
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Thanks E!!!

A week of trails, including the finishing miles of the AR50 while taper for 4/14.

M---8.45, talk about a BEAUTIFUL hilly trail along the American River. Worth the pain of the hills!!!!!!
T---5.0
W--0.0
Th--8.9
F--7.0
Sa--0.0
Su--10.0

Total 39.9

Mike

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