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Click to view Derek Perkins's profile Rookie 1 posts since
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Apr 2, 2007 5:41 PM

Mt. Washington Race - training plan

Other than the obvious answer of 'hill work', does anyone have a tried and tested training plan for this race that you are willing to share?

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1. Apr 2, 2007 7:43 PM in response to: Derek Perkins
my inaugural running of this race will be this year, but I've spoken to at least 6-8 people who have stressed the same thing:

train for it like it was a hilly 1/2 Marathon

do enough LR's

do some MP and tempo work

do some hill specific training

strides are ok, but there is less need for speedwork at 1M RP to 5K RP.


Now, how accurate that is is, well, up in the air. Of course, much of this advice is from seasoned veterans including the immortal Kevin Tilton-who is a top 10 finisher in the past.

good luck and see you at the top!



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2. Apr 2, 2007 8:00 PM in response to: Derek Perkins
Heck....I used to live in that area and at the time I had cars that couldn't make it to the top.



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3. Apr 3, 2007 6:19 AM in response to: Derek Perkins
Hey Dale I'll be joining you for my inaugural running of the Mount Washington RR this year as well.

Have you spoken to anyone about the optimum pace (individually speaking of course)? If so do they recommend a steady pace or one that will drop considerably towards the end?

I already do a fair amount of hill training anyways (hard not to where I live) and just ran a fairly hilly half marathon as a Boston Prep run this past Sunday (Great Bay Half Marathon) in Newmarket NH.

Just curious what the thoughts are out there. Have you guys made transportation arrangements yet?

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4. Apr 3, 2007 9:00 AM in response to: Derek Perkins
I ran last year for the first time and I'm running again this year. Some hill training is nice to help determine what stride (if you can call it a stride) feels comfortable. Depending on where you live, there is really not much that can prepare you for running up a steep grade like that for 7+ miles, though. It's freakish. There may be two or three brief (10-20 yds?) flat sections in the first half and a slightly longer flat stretch at about the 6.5 mile mark. Other than that it is all uphill. As it's been said, your MWRR time is generally similar to your HM time, so training as if for a hilly HM is a good plan.

I think it's important to go out fairly conservatively in this race. You may have a situation like last year where the first half (below tree line) was pretty warm and the second half felt just right or perhaps the first half is ok but the alpine section is miserable due to wind and precipitation. Either way, I think you'd want to have some energy stored up for those later miles.

At times it may feel as if you can walk faster than you can run on this course but success (meaning a decent time) for middle of the packers can best be achieved by walking as little as possible.
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5. Apr 3, 2007 9:18 AM in response to: Derek Perkins
Thanks Blistered your post was extremely informative. I had figured it would probably would be best to be a bit conservative in the early going to save a bit for that last hill, oh yeah there's only one hill right!

I plan on doing a fair amount of "hill" training at Mount Agamenticus which is in York, ME where I work and used to live. I have used it for hill training before, but this time I plan on parking at the base and running up and jogging down (ten reps) that should give me a pretty good feeling for what Mount Washington will be like. Although I am sure like any other race nothing is quite like the real thing!

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6. Apr 3, 2007 5:08 PM in response to: Derek Perkins
quote:<HR>Originally posted by bobscamman:
Hey Dale I'll be joining you for my inaugural running of the Mount Washington RR this year as well.

Have you spoken to anyone about the optimum pace (individually speaking of course)? If so do they recommend a steady pace or one that will drop considerably towards the end?

I already do a fair amount of hill training anyways (hard not to where I live) and just ran a fairly hilly half marathon as a Boston Prep run this past Sunday (Great Bay Half Marathon) in Newmarket NH.

Just curious what the thoughts are out there. Have you guys made transportation arrangements yet?

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The people that I've spoken with say that it will be a slower second half than the first half...so anticipate it and start slower than expected. The goal is steady pace and 'even' splits...ha.

Glad you're doing it and hopefully we'll meet up. I've got some arrangements made as some runners that I 'know' online on another running board, believe it or not, have invited me to stay with them. As I'm travelling solo, I thought it to be a fun trip/experience. I'll drive up there the day before. I'm told it's important to pick up the packet the day before.

I have no arrangements to get down the mountain and will probably just roll down, for fun...
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7. Apr 3, 2007 5:12 PM in response to: Derek Perkins
quote:<HR>Originally posted by dtoce:
I'm told it's important to pick up the packet the day before.

I have no arrangements to get down the mountain and will probably just roll down, for fun...

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Dale, I may be able to help you out on transportation down the mountain, I am still working on my plan as I type but hopefully will have it all set very soon.

I will in all probability pick up my packet the day before as well. Maybe we can hook up it would be great to meet you.

Thanks for the info on starting slow and keeping an even pace.. ha ha ha.

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