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Click to view rochrunner's profile Legend 953 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

Apr 26, 2007 8:26 AM

Morton's Neuroma

Self-diagnosis can be dangerous, but this condition sure seems to fit most of my symptoms. When it first started, I just felt like my sock was bunched up under the ball of my foot, or I had something in my shoe. Now it comes and goes, and is occasionally a bit sore, which I can feel by pressing between my 2nd and 3rd toes.

So, any experience here with this ailment? Any advice? I seem to recall having had this problem a few years ago, but don't remember what -- if anything -- I did to get rid of it.

Just don't tell me to stop running!

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Click to view runrgrl1's profile Legend 237 posts since
May 16, 2002
1. Apr 26, 2007 8:50 AM in response to: rochrunner
Ugh, this is the one that sidelined me the year before last. I had, what my podiatrist called, "the largest neuroma" he'd ever seen. My symptoms sound different than yours, however, because my pain was on the top of my foot between the 3rd & 4th toes. Do you feel it in that area, too? What worked for me was a metatarsel pad and weekly injections to the neuroma. The pad helped keep that area between my toes spread out. In my case it was shoes w/ a too narrow toebox that caused my problems.
I did have to stop running for a while because mine was so severe...........sorry, I had to say it.

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Dec 14, 2007
2. Apr 26, 2007 8:53 AM in response to: rochrunner
No advice, just empathy. Maybe it was that shoe switch recently? Good luck treating it.

Mark
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Oct 24, 2007
3. Apr 26, 2007 8:59 AM in response to: rochrunner
I kept running with mine between the 3rd and 4th toes. It had been giving me grief since the mid 90's.
I finally had to have it removed - THAT will stop your running for a couple months. Get thyself to a DPM pronto and nip the sucker if you can.
Itchy
Click to view DaveinAA035's profile Legend 742 posts since
Dec 18, 2005
5. Apr 26, 2007 11:00 AM in response to: rochrunner
Good luck, Doug, from one lazy orthotics user to another. Keep us posted--we're counting on you for Dexter-AA!
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Dec 14, 2007
6. Apr 26, 2007 12:31 PM in response to: rochrunner
I've no experience here, Doug, but wish you well in resolving the problem. If it seems to want to hang on, give strong consideration to seeing a doctor.

TomS

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Click to view Dark Horse's profile Legend 1,684 posts since
Oct 9, 2005
7. Apr 26, 2007 12:52 PM in response to: rochrunner
Doug,

I had this same frigging thing about 10 years ago. I self-diagnosed that it was caused by my warmup, which back then included running in place on a concrete gym floor in between calisthenics and stretching. This pounding on a hard surface, I believe, caused the neuroma.

I stopped running in place, and backed off on my running for several months, and after a year or so--I forget exactly how long--the problem went away.

I should mention that I also went to the doctor, who tried giving me a shot of cortisone in the ball of my foot, using a big horse-needle. It was such a gruesome procedure, even the doctor winced as he pushed the big needle into my foot. As far as I could tell, the cortisone shot did absolutely nothing for me, just like all other cortisone shots I have gotten in other parts of my body over the years.

Dark Horse

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Click to view runrgrl1's profile Legend 237 posts since
May 16, 2002
8. Apr 26, 2007 1:22 PM in response to: rochrunner
I had alcohol injections, not cortisone, and they seemed to help.........but not a whole lotta fun.

I should mention that I also went to the doctor, who tried giving me a shot of cortisone in the ball of my foot, using a big horse-needle. It was such a gruesome procedure, even the doctor winced as he pushed the big needle into my foot. As far as I could tell, the cortisone shot did absolutely nothing for me, just like all other cortisone shots I have gotten in other parts of my body over the years.

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Click to view LaTortuga13's profile Legend 1,786 posts since
Nov 12, 2007
9. Apr 26, 2007 3:20 PM in response to: rochrunner
quote:<HR>Originally posted by rochrunner:
I think I'll give this a week or so to see if it eases off before going to see a dr. about it.

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You could call about an appointment now as it might take a week to be seen. Don't assume the advice will be to stop running...
Click to view TedAndresen's profile Legend 231 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
10. Apr 26, 2007 8:18 PM in response to: rochrunner
Doug,

I have been able to control my Morton?s Neuroma by doing the following:

I avoid walking on hard surfaces with my bare feet. I always wear slippers or soft in-house shoes.

I cut a 1? hole in the insole of my shoe just under the end of the metatarsal where the neuroma is located so the neuroma is unsupported.

I added heel gels to my shoes so that I take more of the impact load at foot strike off the fore-foot.

I started the laces on my shoes at the third eyelet up from the bottom so that the toe-box is very loose.

I also shopped for shoes that had netting around the sides of the toe box with no leather so that the toe box was basically open.

Hope that helps,

Ted
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Sep 29, 2007
11. Apr 27, 2007 5:16 AM in response to: rochrunner
Roch, no advise, just healing wishes directed your way.

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12. Apr 27, 2007 8:38 AM in response to: rochrunner
Me too, like smpankowski:
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Click to view hup027's profile Community Moderator 263 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
14. Apr 27, 2007 1:32 PM in response to: rochrunner
Doug - I feel your pain (or I have in the past!). My Morton's was brought on by too narrow work shoes and my stubborn refusal to admit that I was going to have to break down and replace them. I got a cortisone shot that did nothing. I also got orthotics with a metatarsal pad that spread out the bones and took the pressure off of the neuroma. Unfortunately, the custom orthotics were too stiff, thick, and heavy to use in my running shoes. I wore them in my new, wider work shoes, and bought a pair of these Lyncos insoles with met pads[/URL" target="_blank"> to try out in my running shoes. After several weeks I could feel the improvement, and now (three years later) I rarely feel neuroma pain. I love the Lyncos. They are very cushy and have a great arch and heel cup. When my custom orthotics fell apart, I never replaced them. I just started wearing the Lyncos in my work shoes and the transition was seamless.
I hope that you can figure out a solution! Good luck!

hup