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17 Replies Last post: Jun 30, 2007 11:03 PM by Karl Rysted   1 2 Previous Next
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Jun 20, 2007 9:23 PM

Trail Running Shoes

DD and I have taken up trail running. I run pavement in Nike Free shoes (no upper support at all). So I definitely need something more supportive. Are trail running shoes necessary? Or can I get away with just a good running shoe? I hike a lot and my hiking shoes are a thousand times better than hiking in a sneaker. Is it the same with running?

Laurie

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1. Jun 20, 2007 9:32 PM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
Re: Trail Running Shoes
I wear my trainers except on very rocky trails. Don't have problems.
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2. Jun 20, 2007 11:40 PM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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My trail shoes are a trail version of my regular running shoes. I wouldn't do trails without the extra traction and control over rough and rocky surfaces. Don't think they are any more supportive, nor do I wear a high top as it weakens the ankles. I wouldn't run without them. I also hike in my running trail shoes as they provide comfort and don't damage the trails like a regular trail boot. In the waffle stomper days when all my pedestrian activities was hiking and walking, I got tired of sore and blistered feet and went to just regular old tenny jumps until some good running trail shoes came along. Larry

A little note on upper support, trail running without that support will strenghen the ankles beyond what you might imagine. After I started trail running I never got a sprained ankle, even after I quit running for awhile, prior to that I was always nursing a swollen ankle from a twist on a hike. I have come down steep hills full speed and landed on the side of my foot when turned in with no injury or interuption to my run.

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3. Dec 23, 2007 2:39 AM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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Like shoes in general, everybody has their own preference. It comes down to what works for you. Trail shoes offer a few advantages, and a few drawbacks, depending on the terrain you are running. In general, most trail shoes have less cushioning than many people are used to, but that does aid stability. If you are running on hard packed trails, with small or no rocks/roots, etc, road trainers work just fine. If you run more technical trails, you'll find a toe guard, offered on many trail shoes, to be a great thing. I personally find that the biggest advantage of trail specific shoes is in the footing/traction. I can run on loose dirt, mud, wet grass, etc, and not slip and slide like I do with my road trainers. Also, if you typically encounter water crossings on your trails, many trail shoes drain better.

So, in a nutshell, it pretty much depends on the terrain you are running. If your trails are not technical, and your street trainers feel okay, then save your money. If you have issues with footing, stability, or toe bruising, then you might want to give some trail shoes a try.

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4. Jun 21, 2007 9:02 AM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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As I'm sure Larry will tell you, there are trails and then there are trails! I don't know what shoes he uses, but I have found my Brooks Adrenaline ASRs to be good for "light trail" usage, whereas I wear Adrenaline GTS shoes for roads and hard-packed dirt surfaces. Mainly, the ASRs are my winter shoes since they're more water-resistant and have the tread for better traction in the wet & slippery stuff.

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5. Jun 21, 2007 4:44 PM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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This is an interesting topic and timely for me. Sorry I don't have an opinion because I too am curious. I will be running my first trail marathon in Aug., the Haulin' Aspen in Bend, OR. My tentative plan is to run in my usual Asics GT-2080's, which are stability shoes, but I am always open to the collective wisdom here.
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6. Jun 21, 2007 4:53 PM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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........I trail run in Asolo Fusion ''Mid'' light hiking boots.......VERY supportive of my ankle ligaments.....a little heavy, but VERY comfortable......
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7. Jun 21, 2007 6:38 PM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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Here are some Montana Light Trail Shoes,

Larry

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8. Dec 23, 2007 2:39 AM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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Montana in-line skates. What attire, if any, do you wear with 'em?

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The RD of our local Cougar Mountain Trail Series (and owner of the only ultra/trail runner store in the area) advises against thicker-soled shoes which delay reaction time to proprioception of trail irregularities and may result in twisted ankles. Apparently good trail shoes have thin, low-to-the-ground, but tough soles to protect against sharp rocks.

sorry, kind of radical but, in fact, he even recommended the Vibram five-finger boat shoes[/URL" target="_blank"> used by one of my barefoot buddies in his trail runs (when he's not running barefoot or using Vibram-soled indigenous-style huaraches[/URL" target="_blank"> of Tarahumara Indian fame that he has fashioned.


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9. Jun 22, 2007 12:14 PM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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Tet I will get fined for this, whatever running shorts are clean and a white cotton teeshirt label out and whatever hat is clean.
The thing about foot movement within the shoe is pretty important. My trail runners are Adidas Super Novas I picked those, 1. That is what my road shoes are. 2. My heel stays in place inside the shoe. 4. The forefoot is thin and flexible. The only shoe that I can put on at the store and it feels right as soon as I step into them.

For those nice pine needle or otherwise gentle trails, dirt roads there isn't much of a need for trail shoes, however on steep and/or rocky trails and any other difficult footing where a fall could be disasterous, trail shoes are a must.

Larry



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11. Jun 28, 2007 10:52 AM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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I changed my plan and just bought a pair of Saucony Grid Excursion Tr 2 shoes. I'll get them just in time to take with us on our family vacation to Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, where I hope to do mostly trail running. Hope I didn't make a $70 mistake (plus shipping).


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13. Jun 29, 2007 8:47 PM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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Yes, Laurie, I'm very lucky. We'll be spending 2-3 days at Yellowstone, and I've never been there but it looks like in addition to the usual tourist sites, there are plenty of trails I might be able to run. The tradeoff is several days of driving across the plains between here and there.

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14. Jun 29, 2007 9:15 PM in response to: Flyin Hawaiian
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Laurie,

I would also recommend gaiters for train running.

Gaiters are a piece of cloth that go over the top of your socks and the top half of your shoes to reduce the amount of pebbles you get into your shoes.

Nothing that I know of will keep all the pebbles out.

Google Dirty girl gaiters. Chrissy Weiss, a deputy district attorney, and ultra trail runner/ Badwater racer makes wild pattern, woman friendly gaiters.

No I don't work for her and doubt she even knows who I am, but have met her a couple of times.