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glenwood96

113 posts since
Jan 17, 2006

150. Oct 17, 2006 7:29 AM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

quote:<HR>Originally posted by merigayle:
Not 11/3? I keep wavering back and forth about doing his Philadelphia run on that Friday. <HR>

NJ on Saturday. I thought a HM with Dean was a great way to taper.

merigayle

1,586 posts since
Aug 15, 2007

151. Oct 18, 2006 6:27 AM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

quote:<HR>Originally posted by glenwood96:
NJ on Saturday. I thought a HM with Dean was a great way to taper.

<HR>

Oh yeah. I think Philly is full mary only. I am still waiting to hear from them about what the real pace is gonna be since i have seen conflicting things on the internet. I don't want to get lost in their dust!

Voodoojunkie

65 posts since
Nov 14, 2007

152. Oct 18, 2006 8:52 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

I'm getting pretty pumped for Philly as well. My last long run will be next weekend on the 28th. Probably do 20, maybe a little more. I've done a 21, 26.2, and a 21 so far. I felt like a slacker when I only did 21 this past weekend.

Now if I can jettison some friggin tonnage, I might be able to break 4 hours.

Long Strides

19 posts since
Oct 16, 2005

153. Oct 18, 2006 9:36 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

wow! seven pages of posts! I would sort through them to see if this has already been discussed- but i don't have the time!

I just ran the Baltimore marathon & am thinking about the Philly marathon in a few weeks (I'm actually moving from Baltimore to Philly on 11/4). Is anybody else planning on doing this combo, or is there anyone else who has before?

B-more was Sunday and today I did my first light running. Felt ok- I just don't want to overdo it.

reagiesmom

61 posts since
Jan 10, 2006

154. Oct 21, 2006 2:51 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

Kimmie-
I am considering running with the 3:50 or 4:00 group from the start, and try to catch the 3:40's later too. My PR is 3:53- looks like I will probably see ya on the course!

sistergoldenhair

106 posts since
Jul 9, 2003

155. Oct 22, 2006 8:55 AM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

4 weeks to go!!

One more week of peak training for me, capped off with a 22 mile long run. I'm a little nervous about fitting it in in a travel weekend, but will juggle it into my Friday the best I can. I would really like to finish on a positive note before tapering. Training has gone really well so far -- I've had some less than stellar-feeling runs, but have been consistent, relatively injury-free (knock wood), and not missed a workout.

Yesterday I had a great 20-miler with a running buddy that has me more excited for Philly than last weekend's tune-up half where I was just 2 seconds off my PR, but felt lousy. We held a sub 9:00 min/mile pace talking comfortably the whole way and cranked it up the last 2 miles, finishing with an 8:10 min/mile.

I'm also looking at the pace groups, like some of you, but am still not decided on a race goal. I know I'd love to come in under 4:00 but am not sure yet about if I want to just go for my dream goal or play it safe and shoot for just under 4:00. It could be an ugly "crash and burn" situation or it could be a "shoot for the moon and at least you'll land on a star" result.

I've learned a big racing problem for me is getting enough liquids in on the course but maintaining as much pace as I can while doing so. Anyone have any good strategies?

Does anyone else find themselves thinking about the race all the time?

reagiesmom

61 posts since
Jan 10, 2006

156. Oct 22, 2006 12:42 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

I am also obsessing about a goal. I have never run a November marathon before, and am a little worried about it being too cold. But I am determined not to overdress. I am thinking shorts and a tank with a hat and gloves, as long as it's above 40. Anyone have other ideas about what to wear? I'm from Pittsburgh and already think its chilly here!

Sistergoldenhair- when I achieved my current PR I was trying for 3:40 (my dream goal) but landed on the "star" of 3:53. I have to say I wasn't too dissapointed because it was my first sub-4 finish, and there is something exciting about seeing the number 3 on that finish line clock! Realistically I'll probably run about my PR in Philly. Good luck to everyone with their goals! Seems like a lot of you run about my pace.

sistergoldenhair

106 posts since
Jul 9, 2003

157. Oct 22, 2006 2:08 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

quote:<HR>Originally posted by reagiesmom:
I am also obsessing about a goal. I have never run a November marathon before, and am a little worried about it being too cold. But I am determined not to overdress. I am thinking shorts and a tank with a hat and gloves, as long as it's above 40. Anyone have other ideas about what to wear? I'm from Pittsburgh and already think its chilly here!

Sistergoldenhair- when I achieved my current PR I was trying for 3:40 (my dream goal) but landed on the "star" of 3:53. I have to say I wasn't too dissapointed because it was my first sub-4 finish, and there is something exciting about seeing the number 3 on that finish line clock! Realistically I'll probably run about my PR in Philly. Good luck to everyone with their goals! Seems like a lot of you run about my pace. <HR>

We have the same dream goal (at least until I turn 35 in April).

And of course in just my 3rd marathon and considering my current PR I would be thrilled to see a 3-anything! Just out of curiosity, what is giving you that idea of what you'll do in Philly? Your training?

Cold weather races are my preference, and unless it's unseasonably cold I'm either going to wear RaceReady shorts or capri tights w/pockets and a short-sleeved T/tank under something ditch-able (along with ditchable headband/gloves). I will freeze at the start but feel great once I get going.

Doctor Wu076

412 posts since
Sep 25, 2000

158. Oct 22, 2006 3:35 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

15 hilly miles today at an EZ 8:58 pace. I'm having trouble staying motivated for Philly after my unexpected marathon PR two weeks ago. With two marathons in the last five weeks I really don't need to worry about mileage but plan to do around 52 - 55 in the upcoming week with a fast 20 - 22 next Sunday. That will be my sixth 20 miler this summer/fall. Also planned are 4 X 1600 intervals on Wednesday nights for the next two weeks and hopefully about five more pounds of weight loss.

Martacious

151 posts since
Oct 15, 2007

159. Oct 22, 2006 4:08 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

Hey SGH!

As far as hydration, what did you do that hasn't worked in your previous 2 marathons? I don't slow much at aid stations but if I'm thirsty I'll take two cups, smush them at the top and run with them while drinking. Perhaps you'll need to stop at some aid stations, drink a cup and start running with a second cup, might that work.

In regards to thinking about Philly all of the time....I used to have that problem. I solved it by starting to work on my race schedule from December 2006 - October 2007. I still think about Philly most of the time since this is a very important race for me.

Rmom - everyone varies as far as their weather tolerance butfor starting temps I go to about 35 with regular shorts and a SS shirt and to 30 with compression shorts and a SS shirt. I use lots of stuff for my hands since they get cold easily. As far as head gear, a cap or thermal band is sufficient for most people down into the 20's. If you use a thermal hat, you'll probably be way too hot. Of course, if you're using an outfit for your long runs in cold temperatures that works for you, it will probably work well for you in the marathon so stick with that!

This weeks training ended on a high note. My training plan called for an 8 - 15K race yesterday so I found a 10K that wasn't far away. Most of the people were running the 5K so there were only 37 of us in the 10K. I was barely able to hang 200 feet back from the leader for the first 5 miles but then either he faded or I got a burst of energy. I ended up making a surge that he didn't counter and I won the race! Followed that with a hard long run today that encompassed the main Boston Marathon hills and left me wiped but contented.

Train on!

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merigayle

1,586 posts since
Aug 15, 2007

160. Oct 23, 2006 6:32 AM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

SGH- i always go to Walmart or salvation army and buy a throw away sweatshirt and leave it at an early aide station.

reagiesmom

61 posts since
Jan 10, 2006

161. Oct 23, 2006 2:56 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

SGH- I am pretty sure about my finish time because this will be my 5th marathon this year and all have been between 3:53 and under 4. I am really in a rut. My last race was Erie on Sept 10th in 3:56, and my training hasnt really changed, nor do I believe that one can gain much fitness on 2 month's time. I'll be taking a different approach to my training this winter in preparation for a 3:40 attempt early this spring. However, my plan for Philly is to go out real slow and try to turn it on at the end!

MARTICIOUS- thanks for the advice on clothes. I will probably go with a runner's cap and throw away gloves.

ALL- Anyone have any logistical advice re: the start- how early to get there to have time to pee and line up with the 4:00 pace group? Most of my past marathons have been small low key races. I am very excited about running this one since it will be the biggest field I have experienced, but I know that means everything will be more hectic. I already plan to carry a small water bottle so I can skip the infamous first water station. Any other advice from past Philly finishers would be greatly appreciated!

bostontodd

31 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

162. Oct 23, 2006 4:44 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

The course map for the half marathon is up on the marathon website. Looks as though the half runners start with the marathon and share the course for the first 9 miles or so. Personally I was looking forward to the fact that Philly is a much smaller race than NYC or Chicago. I really hope they get more port-potties this year, because with the extra runners starting at the same time, the long lines from previous years will be even worse.

Q46

24 posts since
Jan 23, 2006

163. Oct 24, 2006 2:34 PM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

This will be my first time running the Philly marathon. I have run the past two NYC marathons. I am looking to qualify for Boston this year (less than 3:10).

Does anyone have advice regarding whether or not I should join the 3:10 pace group? I finished my last half marathon in just under 1:23. On one hand I am nervous that I will start out too fast and crash in the later miles. On the other hand, I don't want to just miss qualifying for Boston because I paced myself too slow.

dooq

18 posts since
Sep 13, 2006

164. Oct 26, 2006 10:32 AM

in response to: Martacious

Re: Philly Marathon - November 19, 2006

Q46, assuming you have done some long runs, a 3:10 shouldn't be a problem based on your half time. If you're worried about going out too fast, the pace group is a good thing for you. The pace groups actually run a pace a few minutes under their time to leave some room for error. How about running with them for the first 16-20 miles, then if you feel good, you can move ahead?

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