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13 Replies Last post: Nov 22, 2006 11:54 AM by frankie71

sandert

17 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

Nov 7, 2006 7:21 PM

Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

Has anyone run this before? I am planning on this being my 2nd marathon. Anyone else doing this next year?

Stephen

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PR Marathon 5:22 (Twin Cities Marathon 2006)

srlopez

17 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

1. Nov 7, 2006 9:32 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

I've done it twice. It is a rolling course... the first 6ish miles are a downhill - makes it very easy to go out too fast. Very nasty but mercifully short hill in the later miles called 'dutchman's revenge'. You'll know it when you get there.

If you can manage getting up in the middle of the night, catch the earliest shuttle to the top and maximize your time at the little campfires. It's nice.

And the sun coming up is very cool.

Good support along the way; nice gathering at the end. Lots of drawings for prizes. Alas, some prizes are more meaningful if you are from the area... but that's pretty typical...

I may do it next year, but not likely. Other good stuff that weekend.

frankie71

85 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

2. Nov 8, 2006 12:44 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

Its a toss up for me between running PF Changs HM or the LD HM. Only drawbacks about the LD is that its on the other side of the Valley for me, and its that much closer to the Flying Pig HM that I am running in May. They say its a very beautiful course and lots of fun. Decisions. decisions.

saltycat

28 posts since
Sep 28, 2007

3. Nov 8, 2006 2:05 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

I'm hoping to do the HM. It would be my first HM. I've heard it's very scenic. I'm from the West Valley, so I will have to get up very early, but that adds to the excitement.

Diana

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Let's run, and we'll have some fun, now before I melt away
Frosty the Snowman

srlopez

17 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

4. Nov 8, 2006 4:11 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

Ah... so the half is an out-and-back from the finish, whereas the full is a point-to-point from wayout to the finish. The half is pretty, but the full is jaw-dropping gorgeous because it starts in the hills. No idea whether they do the same little campfire thing for the start of the half.

I do know this when choosing between LD and PF Chang. The PF Chang half course is one of the fastest in the country (not counting full-on downhill screamers). The LD course is fairly hard. If you want great desert sites, do LD. If you want a nice challenge, do LD. If you are trying to PR then by all means do PF Chang.

frankie71

85 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

5. Nov 8, 2006 5:17 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

Hey Salty Love your signature, I had that movie permanantely burned into my memory thanks to my kids

Judging by your profile, you and I are darn near neighbors, I live in Surprise.

SR Good to see you around again! Maybe someday I will get around to running another full and Ill do the LD. Think I may do PF Changs HM just from the recovery standpoint, plus some of my local friends are running it.

sandert

17 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

6. Nov 8, 2006 11:57 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

I want to do PF HM and then LD full. Since my first full was Oct 1st, am I crazy to try that combo so close together?

I have a long run of 14 miles scheduled for PF weekend anyway, migh as well run it in a race. It would likely be a PR for me anyway, even without a full-on effort.

Thoughts, comments suggestions?

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PR Marathon 5:22 (Twin Cities Marathon 2006)

SLOjim

369 posts since
Nov 17, 2007

7. Nov 9, 2006 11:00 AM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

I have the half at the Lost Dutchman on my race calendar, although I may opt for the Palm Springs Half on that date because of travelling distance.

The Lost Dutchman looks like a beautiful race..... all I have to do is talk my non-running DW into another race/vacation ..... after last weekend's trip to Santa Barabara, she may be reaching her limit

I would like to hear more from others that have run this race.

Thanks,
Jim

srlopez

17 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

8. Nov 9, 2006 3:51 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

quote:<HR>I want to do PF HM and then LD full. Since my first full was Oct 1st, am I crazy to try that combo so close together?<HR>

Not at all... this could be very useful. Many marathon training plans include races of shorter distances along the way. Just listen to your body... if you feel especially ragged after the half, then take it easy for a few days.

And keep in mind that Lost Dutchman and the RockNRoll races are night and day in terms of attitude and organization. Both are fun. Just very very different.

saltycat

28 posts since
Sep 28, 2007

9. Nov 13, 2006 3:42 AM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

Hi

Frankie,
I live right on the edge of Surprise. I usually tell people I live in Surprise, since even locals don't always know where El Mirage is. Are you doing any other runs in the area? I'm planning to do the Turkey Trot in Peoria.

Salty

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Let's run, and we'll have some fun, now before I melt away
Frosty the Snowman

frankie71

85 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

10. Nov 13, 2006 12:12 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

quote:<HR>Originally posted by salty:
Hi Frankie,
I live right on the edge of Surprise. I usually tell people I live in Surprise, since even locals don't always know where El Mirage is. Are you doing any other runs in the area? I'm planning to do the Turkey Trot in Peoria.
Salty
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Salty

Kinda funny you mention that some folks dont know where El Mirage is. When I tell out of state people that I live in Surprise, AZ, they look at me as if to say ok where in Arizona, and why is it a surprise

I am running the Turkey Trot in Peoria too, the 8k. Itll be the first running race that I have run twice ( as I only started ruinning a little over a year ago. ) Hope to beat my time from last year. Maybe we could meet up before and at least say hello.

Frankie

sandert

17 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

11. Nov 13, 2006 12:31 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

quote:<HR>Originally posted by frankie71:
[b] Salty

Kinda funny you mention that some folks dont know where El Mirage is. When I tell out of state people that I live in Surprise, AZ, they look at me as if to say ok where in Arizona, and why is it a surprise

[/B]<HR>

My favorite AZ town name is Why. My guess is someone built a house there and when people passed through through said "Why" would anyone build a house here? Nice enough town, but other than peace and quiet, not sure why the original settlers settled there.

saltycat

28 posts since
Sep 28, 2007

12. Nov 14, 2006 1:40 PM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

Frankie,

That would be great to meet at Peoria. I'm doing the 8k also, but I walk a good amount of it. Maybe we figure out a meeting place.

Sandert,

I like the name of Why also. I lived in Ohio for a while, and liked the towns of Defiance and Payne. I actually worked in Defiance, which was always fun to tell people.

Salty

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Let's run, and we'll have some fun, now before I melt away
Frosty the Snowman

frankie71

85 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

13. Nov 22, 2006 11:54 AM

in response to: sandert

Re: Lost Dutchman 2007 (Arizona)

Salty

I dont know if you will see this or not but Ill be hanging around above the first base dugout before the race. Ill be in black shorts, a white shirt with Team Arizona/ Team in Training on the back and a white hat with a green O on the front of it.

Hope to see you there!

Frankie

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