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9 Replies Last post: May 17, 2006 10:21 AM by Professor010  
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May 14, 2006 3:02 PM

1.5 mile run

Hello
I posted this on the basic training part but no one seems able to help me, was hoping u can.

At the moment i am doing a mile and a half at 12 mins 30. I would like to get that down to 10 mins 30. I was wondering if u had any training programmes to help me achieve this?

thanx
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1. May 14, 2006 4:00 PM in response to: TweetyPie
Re: 1.5 mile run
Build up your base for as long as you can, by doing 3 long(er) runs a week. Try to build up about 5min on each run per week, until you get to something like this: Mon: 60 min (tempo, 8 miles maybe) Tues: 30 min easy (like 3 miles) Wed: 50 min fartlek (moderate intensity) Thur: 20-30 min easy (2-3 miles, see how you feel) Friday: The "long" long run-start at 120 min (perhaps 12 miles, but don't feel too bad if its more like 10 at first). Saturday and Sunday are easy days. This would be "stage 1," the conditioning phase. Then come the hills stage, for strength and flexibility, which I think most people (unwisely) skip, then anaerobic, the hardest (but shortest-4 weeks usually) stage, then co-ordination training, with less anaerobic speedwork, some sprints, and time trials. Then, if you have a singly more/most important race, "taper" by running 7-10 easy days leading up to it. Warm up and stretch thoroughly for the race, eat well, stretch regularly, and get your mind ready, and you'll race very well.
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2. May 14, 2006 4:22 PM in response to: TweetyPie
Re: 1.5 mile run
And by the way... The most important factors (in order of importance) are the date of the race, (how long you have to train) willingness to train, and liklihood of injury. So... reply if you still want help. or email me. I'd like to help.

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4. May 14, 2006 8:30 PM in response to: TweetyPie
Re: 1.5 mile run
I would do the aerobic, then anaerobic, and then sharpening phases then. How much time you spend on those depends on how balanced your training has been so far. If you have a high aerobic capacity and poor speed, then do more speed workouts. Speed, not anaerobic. The faster running (like running downhil, high knees, and fast feet drills) makes it so your legs are used to a faster turnover rate, decreasing muscle viscosity, and allowing you to run faster without burning more energy. Or, if you're the other way around, do the aerobic conditioning with a moderate speed workout once a week. (I said fartlek, it can be interval too, as long as it's a primarily aerobic workout with some fast, not hard, running)

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This site says most of it pretty well, although I believe it is directed at college level and up. Hence the 100 mile weeks.
Training for races between the 800 m and the marathon are surprisingly similar, the only differences usually being time trial distance. I also just remembered something: Middle School track is 3k, which is about 1.5 mi isn't it? If you're in Middle School, you should probably lay the anaerobic training unless you have a very solid aerobic base. Everyone should really, but younger runners (young being below 18 and very young being below 12) can hurt themselves more with the anaerobic work.
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5. May 14, 2006 8:36 PM in response to: TweetyPie
Re: 1.5 mile run
Concerning the 3 months: When I said time to prepare, I meant for a single race. This can mean season too. 3 months from now is August 6, and if that's the case, then what I told you holds true. But, if races don't start until later, or you don't have qualifying races (like regionals) until later, you can extend your training a bit, using races as tempo runs. My season starts in late August, but my training is designed to peak in early to mid-October. So... now that I've kinda flooded this thread, I guess I'm done. I'd add in a little smiley face shrugging, but they don't have one.
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6. May 14, 2006 9:18 PM in response to: TweetyPie
Re: 1.5 mile run
what kind of training are you doing now, how old are you, and how long have you been running? do you run for your school track team or something like that? the training that jeff mentioned would be good for someone who has at least a good year or two of training under his/ her belt, a lot of experience, and wants a hardcore training regimine to really get the best possible performance that they can out of their body. i have a feeling that something less intense could help you reach your goal with a much smaller chance of injury.

even at a varsity level, training for 5K races, very few runners do 12 mile long runs, or even 10. and if tweetypie's 1.5 mi race pace is 8:20 pace, she obviously shouldnt expect to run 8mi in 60 min like you suggested (7:30 pace).

i love to tell my story about when i started running seriously: in 8th grade my mile time was 7:47 (i probably would have had a 1.5 mile time similar to yours), and i ran jr. high track (i was a sprinter). i got recruited for my high school cross country team, the coach gave us a summer training schedule, and i was hooked. even though i couldnt finish the 2mi scheduled for the first day w/o walking, i kept at it, and by the last day i could run 6mi at 8:15 pace. once the season started...the freshman cross country course was 1.5 mi, and i was under 10:00 (under 6:40 pace) by my second time racing it, with only a month or so training with the team.

the schedule my coach gave us was simple and its goal was to build our endurance. its a simpler, less intense version of the aerobic stage jeff mentioned, and it went like this:
week 1: 2mi every day
week 2: 3mi every day except saturday off
week 3: 3mi every day
week 4: 4mi every day except saturday off
week 5: 4mi every day
week 6: 4mi every day except saturday off
week 7: 5 mi every day except 6 on saturday

like i said, simple. but it got me in shape, and quick. if i had never run it and saw someone post it now, i would probably criticize it...theres no tempo runs, no intervals, no fartleks, no hills, no ANYTHING...plus there's not much of an opportunity for rest for a new runner which invites injury. theres not much variety, either, which invites boredom...and that may be worse than injury when it comes to hooking a new runner on the sport.

but it WORKED.

this is all assuming that youre not training much now, and you havent developed your endurance. if 2mi is nothing for you, start with three. start with four. if your goal race is in 3months, you might want to cut the base-building to 5 weeks instead of 7. then do 3 weeks of strength-buidling (this is where you start specializing: tempo runs, fartleks, long runs, and hills, with easy days in-between hard workouts); 3 weeks of speed (anaerobic), similar to strength but less distance and more speed, and throw in some interval workouts too; and a week to taper. if you have a bunch of races and not just one goal one, you may need to change this schedule a bit since youll need an easy day before and after each race, but you wont need the weeklong taper.

i could be completely off-track here...i could help more if you told me, like i said: what kind of training are you doing now, how old are you, and how long have you been running?

(and jeff, i hope you dont feel so bad about "flooding" this thread now, since ive said twice as much as you, and in a single post. this could very well be the longest post ive ever posted, and i have a history of lengthy posts.)



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7. May 14, 2006 11:00 PM in response to: TweetyPie
Re: 1.5 mile run
Professor sounds like he's been running awhile, so I bet his schedule'd work for you, although I guess the first step is figuring out your current fitness and capabilities... the schedule I mentioned took me 4 months to build up to, by the way, and my hour tempo run is still not 8 miles. I think of it as the optimum, although I haven't tested it yet. (no races since I started it). I'm guessing what you really need is coach or fellow experienced runner to watch and/or train with you. They can tell you a lot usually, and help you learn to listen to your body so that you know personally how hard to train. One of my dad's friends has been running just about forever and every time I see him we talk about running for like 2 hours. So look for someone with experience and keep plugging away at it. And good luck. : )

Message to the Prof:
I'd like to discuss schedules with you sometime. I'll post a thread about it and then maybe we can hash something out.
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9. May 17, 2006 10:21 AM in response to: TweetyPie
Re: 1.5 mile run
quote:<HR>Originally posted by jeff19:

Message to the Prof:
I'd like to discuss schedules with you sometime. I'll post a thread about it and then maybe we can hash something out.
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thats cool...you can IM me if you want. my AIM sn is Professor126.

by the way, im a she not a he.


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