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8 Replies Last post: Jul 6, 2006 12:47 AM by alexanderthegr8042  
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Jul 3, 2006 3:09 PM

Speedwork-from strength to speed

Including everything from stride-outs, 400m repeats, (anaerobic and for pace judgement) and hill/strengthwork, to time trials under and over diatance, tell me everything. I just talked to a genius (he's got some degree in physiology and used to run competitively, and was fairly good in HS, didn't place in state but was near there... and if my dad invites him over for dinner again I'll see if I can talk to him again) and wanted to know how what he says compares to what other HS kids experience. Also, where can I look up how good (meaning competing nationally or internationally) runners train and compete? I'd like to see how they do.
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2. Jul 4, 2006 12:47 PM in response to: jeff19
Re: Speedwork-from strength to speed
One piece of advice I'll offer you is take your easy days EASY!!!
I used to hear my coach say eaasy day and then I'd go out and run 6:30 miles. I look back now and think I was retarded. Give your body a chance to recover. Try jogging every other day. That's what I'm doing now and when it comes time for my workouts I find them less stressful and that I recover much faster because I'm fresh for the start of the workout. This allows me to throw in extra doubles and increase my mileage.
Give it a try for a couple weeks and see how you feel in your workouts.

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4. Jul 4, 2006 11:46 PM in response to: jeff19
Re: Speedwork-from strength to speed
Alright well you seem to have some knowledge of training and phisiology. I'll say that you need to be training for all aspects of your running throughout the season. Speed is not something you can just turn on by doing 200s at the end of the season.
Take for example sprinters. You will often see them run 40 x 25m or something like that. What they are doing is basically training their muscles to remember what to do. (I'm not sure if that makes sense) There are scientific words for this but basically when you sprint over and over again, your muscles remember how to do it and it makes it much easier. You need to do the same activity 1000s of times before your muscles "remember". This is why I love to throw in strides after many of my runs.
Many people shy away from early season speedwork. As long as you aren't doing it twice a week you should be fine. Once every two weeks is good enough. Another aspect I feel like you need to train all-year is your aerobic threshold stuff (Tempo runs). This is a workout which still avoids lactic buildup and can (and should) be done every week. Usually between 3-6 miles is good.
Now when we start getting into racing season I would advise doing intervals that build tolerance to lactic acid (400s and 800s). As the season moves into it's middle phases you want to do some of your toughest workouts, ladders are great for this time. Towards the end of the season I would move towards intervals that are either race pace with short recovery or intervals that are all out with very long recovery. I wouldn't advise doing the all-out intervals too often though.
Sorry if any of that was hard to follow, I just got home from work and am a little tired.
If you've got any specific questions or situations I'd be more than happy to help you out.

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6. Jul 5, 2006 2:06 PM in response to: jeff19
Re: Speedwork-from strength to speed
Well you're runs that are building you up aerobically are those easy runs. I never used a HRM so I'm not sure about that but it should be a pace which you can easily converse with another. A tempo should be a little more laboured. You should still be able to talk to someone else but not quite so easily I guess. So you should be able to say a quick sentence but then take a breath. The difference between the tempo runs and the aerobic runs are basically that the tempo runs are playing with that line in which the lactic acid you produce is too much for your body to naturally neutralize. Tempo runs are the best thing IMO to build up aerobic capacity however they do damage to your body/muscles like any workout will so doing them every day is not a good idea. Like I wrote earlier tempos are good once a week. The easy runs still build you up aerobically just not at the same rate as a tempo. You want to do these runs slow because it will allow the body to recover from workouts but still build up your aerobic base.

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8. Jul 6, 2006 12:47 AM in response to: jeff19
Re: Speedwork-from strength to speed
Since I'm tired and I'm going to bed and also since I think this is kinda getting a little one on one and no one else cares I'll send you an email sometime tommorrow to answer the questions you've asked.

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