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16. Jun 8, 2007 6:04 PM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
I am not a christain, but I didn't take offense to anything the OP said... probably because I am comfortable in my beliefs (and not trying to shove them on anybody, or have other beliefs shoved on me)... The argument over religion is an old one.... on that many men and women have suffered and even died over, for whatever reasons... becuase of their faith, because of their lack of faith in the right god... whatever... I'd think that we as humans would grow past these rediculous things, and realize that we're all here... and most if us are doing our best... which is all we can do. Yes I believe everything happens for a reason... does it really matter why? Just learn from it and move on!
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18. Jun 8, 2007 8:04 PM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
I am not looking for sympathy. I am not looking for this post to become some religious battle of beliefs. I am looking for people to simply appreciate what a blessing it has been in my life to overcome this, whatever the situation, whatever the reason. Can you only recognize the bad in this?

No it cant die for this reason
you dont want it to become a religous battle or for sympathy but to appractite a blessing is looking for sympath, why because your looking for someone else to recogize it had happened

and yea you got better but no one remember that they got sick first, and what caused that, whoever people thank they dont for getting sick so they can thank the same person for getting better
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19. Jun 8, 2007 8:36 PM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Crazy1:
Soul. I don't doubt that faith helped you. There have been many studies done that asprin has cured cancer becuase people believe it was a miricle drug. It was a pointful story just because of the fact that you kept being stupid and running. (no offence I've been stupid. we all have)

I respect you for no other reason except that you fought on and are now running.


<HR>


This is exactly the point having faith in whatever you believe in as long as you believe it can do amazing things.
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21. Jun 8, 2007 11:23 PM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
Ok. I understand your way so read the story again. Go on and do it. But this time, ignore the parts about god. Try it this way. How ever you look at this, it is going to be amazing. As humans, we are pretty much alien on this planet. Truely think about this. We may have evolved, but we have been our own downfall. That is why these things happen. Germs of some sort had gotten into Tim's body and disrupted his state of being (his health). The other way to see it is God was testing him to see if he was a true believer. In this test he passed. So, either way you look at it, it all equates to the same thing. A bad thing happened for one reason or another. Bad things happen, its life. He got better, in the eyes of some it was a miracle or in the eyes others it was pure modern medicine. Why dwell on how it happened or how he thinks or believes he overcame it. That is his beliefs, we all have them. So why is this a debate. A great man once said "Talk not about politics or religion. For these will cause great debate."

BTW Crazy, I don't have to prove that he exists. I have faith in him, so I believe he is there. He doesn't chose how people live there lives, people do. He doesn't created new people, we do. He has no control over people. We have free will. And yes, I do want to believe in someone who does that. Because I do and its my faith. Might not be yours, I don't care. Even if those theories are correct, the universe is much to vast to be explained through science. They don't explain how everything was made. Because if it all formed by one big bang, then how did those things form that caused the big bang? There is no answer. You can't prove it, as neither I can prove the existence of my god.
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22. Jun 9, 2007 1:52 AM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Soulrunnin66:
Newengland:

You cant assume my intentions any more than I yours . Simply put, appreciating a blessing is called being thankful. That is my reason.

**because your looking for someone else to recogize it had happened**

True, I am looking for people to recognize my story.

This story is for people like you, The moral is to simply be thankful. Your choice, my friend, is to believe it or not. Stop being immature and seeing whats wrong before you ever consider the right. Not to sound like a teacher, I think you should look deeply at yourself before you look at another.

To those whom where inspired by this message, bless you.

For those whom preferred to be childish and start a squabble over your personal opinion, bless you too. : )

This thread wont last much longer.

Being Humble will be benefit us all in life, we all have a long way to go.

Crazy, I suggest you read this link, it might do you a lot of good. http://life.familyeducation.com/manners-and-values/parenting/34452.html[/URL" target="_blank">

Thanks everyone for replying, even the opposition. I appreciated what you had to say, off topic or not. smile I learned something myself here, and I hope you got something out of it.

Everyone take care, my best wishes to you all. May you live long, blessed lives, however you believe.


Ps. Be thankful, its worth it. You dont know what you have until you lose it.

Love you guys,


~Tim
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stop trying to twist the words so it dosent seem like you did anything. All you people are like this (yes im sterotyping).

You can appricatle whatever you want to call it, but your not being thanksful going around post IM ALIVE THANKS TO GOD. you dont see me doing it, if i want to be thankful ill thank the doctors that saved my ***.

BTW if you ever read my post, I have a story worse than yours and in all your post back to me you have completly disregarded it due to the fact it dosent help your point one bit.

Your the one thats bias here my friend because you wont own up to the fact that god was the one that made it happen to you in the first place. YOu like most other just brush that part off and go to ITS A MIRCALE, IM ALIVE. So dont ever tell me im immature and childness, i have done nothing but prove valid points to your the opposition of your argument.

But going along with the point here, If we believe that God did save you and your thankful for it, than if it wasent god that gave you the inflammed heart or had someone stabb me in the back 6 times than who was it? THats the part your forgetting and avioding.


Nothing of this has been personal opioion its just been questions and another story thats worse than yours that your looking for a way out of. If you want to call me childess, than ill start acting childess

And btw you were looking for sympathy and i have proof when you started off the sotry with " I've got a wonderfully dramatic story to share with you" if it was about someonelse than i would be fine but your callling YOUR STORY DRAMATIC mean you wanted sympathy. you called of just said this is a story about what has happened to me over the last few months and i figuered i should share it with ya all. Thats all, im done for now since your proably just go with the same old reposnse of this is childness (its an argument, which u started so ever fight with fact, or bow out) or not repond meaning you took the second option
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23. Jun 9, 2007 1:59 AM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
quote:<HR>Originally posted by CippyCup:
That is because these are the tests of our faith. There is a story about a man who had everything he ever wanted. He thanked the lord for his blessings. He had a wife, some kids, a big house, and lots of cattle. One day the devil saw him and told the lord, "He only likes you because you give him such nice things. If you take them away, he would curse your name." God replied "I do not think that he would, I will bet that he will not". So God killed his family and his cattle, blew down his house, and gave him many sores. But he kept on thanking the lord for his blessings. He never cursed the lords name. So you see, what happens, happens for a reason. It is a test of your faith. God is not punishing you, he is testing you. That is why people don't wonder where the bad things come from. They know that he is just testing them.<HR>



cippy i was just startign to like you and btw i cant believe this or credit it because who knows if it ever happened. Someone said he walked on water, he someone wrote down that i did it, dose that mean I walked on water? Show me someone on EARTH that hgas been published that proves ur point
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24. Jun 9, 2007 6:01 AM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
recoils from horrible arguments and behaviour of atheists

That's an amazing story and I'm glad to hear you're recovering I don't believe in the same god as you, but what's the point of fighting over something that is impossible to prove.
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25. Jun 9, 2007 11:06 AM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
im not fighting over the fact that there is a god or not, i could care less about that


i just want him to own up to the fact that if he believe an alimight one saved him, than it is also the case that the almighty one also caused it.
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26. Jun 9, 2007 12:46 PM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
quote:<HR>Originally posted by newenglandfan08:

cippy i was just startign to like you and btw i cant believe this or credit it because who knows if it ever happened. Someone said he walked on water, he someone wrote down that i did it, dose that mean I walked on water? Show me someone on EARTH that hgas been published that proves ur point
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Please direct your attention to my most recent post on this thread. Thanks.
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27. Jun 9, 2007 5:31 PM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
quote:<HR>Originally posted by CippyCup:
Please direct your attention to my most recent post on this thread. Thanks.<HR>


i did reread it cippy and guesse what he started a debate by bringing it up

but im not arguing that point whehter there is a god or not, i believe i have said this how many times, i am ONLY aguing, because he clamis it as a mircale where whatever he wont get mad or even recongize the same person would do it to him by his beliefes
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28. Jun 9, 2007 5:49 PM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
But that is his belief. He knows that god did this to him. He may or may not admit it. That is his choice. He does not have to say "God did this to me, but I still have faith in him as a good being." He may want to say that, as to end this unceasing arguement.

BTW, If he came here for sympathy he did not know it wouldnt be given. If he just wanted to share his story, he did but it caused controversy. He may or may not have come here for sympathy. It does not matter. But until he admits that he did, then you should remember that he said he came here to "tell his life and death running story". So, Tim whether or not you came here for sympathy. It was a good story. If you did come here for sympathy, please just say that you did. It would end this debate.
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29. Jun 9, 2007 7:58 PM in response to: Soulrunnin66
Re: My Life and Death running story~
I don't really know why he came here. Sympathy? From a bunch of teenagers.

How old are you anyway soul?

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