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12 Replies Last post: Aug 31, 2007 7:05 AM by lioness1  
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Aug 30, 2007 12:40 PM

Open Water Fear

I am getting ready for my first. sprint Tri..the Lady Patriot..and I am concerned about the open water swim. Has anyone done this particular one before..and has info about it? I have been swimming,and have done a duathlon with a 500m swim with no prob in a pool...but haven't done a open water one. How much harder is it..and how do you simulate it if there is no lake/river nearby? Thanks.
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1. Aug 30, 2007 1:51 PM in response to: jhopkins
Re: Open Water Fear
Ok, first if there is ANY way possible get in OW for even a short swim before your race.

If it is NOT possible, here's my advice: Expect to have some anxiety in the water.....almost everyone does, it is just a little strang to start out swimming with all those people and all the kicking, etc. Start slow...keep in the back and let your breathing get under control, then pick up your pace. Don't make the mistake of going out too fast, getting caught up with everyone.........remind yourself that you are calm and strong and can do it one stroke at a time.

Good luck at your Tri and post a RR for us!
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2. Aug 30, 2007 1:57 PM in response to: jhopkins
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I had the same issue. I'm a strong swimmer, but the OW was freaking me out. I did have some anxiety at my first tri, but I was able to calm down and keep swimming. The main difference is that you can't see as well as in a pool. In some lakes, you can't see at all unless you pick your head up out of the water. Just expect this and practice sighting out of water. Another difference is all the people. That part doesn't ever bother me, but my advice is to just stay near the back of your wave, then slowly make your way up. If you can get in the water before the tri, it will help a lot. That's the one thing I did differently at my last tri, and I had my fastest swim time! I had NO issues with my heart racing at the beginning! The fear of the unknown is hard to deal with, but you will get through it. Good luck.

Kelli
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3. Aug 30, 2007 2:09 PM in response to: jhopkins
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there's always Chris's post from earlier.
Do you have friends willing to wack you about and jump on you/ crash into you/ swim over you in the pool?
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4. Aug 30, 2007 2:16 PM in response to: jhopkins
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Try and get to the race early and swim a few hundred meters just to get used to it so it`s not a complete shock. It should be enough...
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5. Aug 30, 2007 2:33 PM in response to: jhopkins
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jhopkins -- The local tri club (colonialareatri.org) does an OW swim every other week on the James River about 10 miles down stream from where Lady Patriot (and the Half) will be held. There is one the Thursday before the event, so the water temps, salinity, etc will be basically the same as race day. The water is only chest deep where we swim (and that's a good 100yds out) so it's a nice intro to open water. Just stand up if you panic

Please come out and join us. I'll be there on Thursday.

It really does help to get out there even for a bit to feel open water!
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6. Aug 30, 2007 2:43 PM in response to: jhopkins
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It's better for your morale if I don't share my first OW experience, but there's a very important point: Try to do an OW swim before the race, even the shortest one, for 10-15 minutes!
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7. Aug 30, 2007 3:03 PM in response to: jhopkins
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I won't go into details about my first time in OW either, but as an experienced and strong swimmer, it freaked me out but definitely got better after a few OW practices. Mainly the vision thing was the scariest for me.

My strategy was to get to the front of my wave so that I could try to avoid the kicking and mass clump up of people at the start. It seemed to work for me and sure, eventually I was passed, but as far as getting my head kicked in, I avoided all that! (I will admit that although I wasn't the kickee, a few times I was the kicker.)

Can't stress enough the importance of making time to get in at least a little practice so you know what to expect. Good luck.. you'll be fine!
Carrie
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8. Aug 30, 2007 6:37 PM in response to: jhopkins
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Most of what you'll encounter in OW (lack of visibility, cold temps, the disorientation of no black line to follow, learning to sight, different taste than pool water, weeds, fish, etc.) will primarily be a mental challenge, and not something that will really endanger you. That said, you cannot underestimate the mental component, and how powerful your brain can be when part of it says, "hey, this is new, I don't like this."

Any time you can get in OW before the race will be a huge benefit to you. Even if it's only 10 -15 minutes early on the race morning. The more you can get the better. If there's anyway you could hook up with Mobius and his group, jump on that opportunity. If a swim during the week doesn't work for your logistics, try to arrange one on the weekend.

If getting to open water ahead before race day is impossible, that's one thing, but if it's merely inconvenient or difficult, find a way to make it happen. And make sure you don't go out alone... maybe if you can't make that Thursday session Mobius mentioned, you could still contact him or his tri club to see if someone would be willing to swim with you on a different day. Tri-folks are friendly and VERY inclined to help others get started.

As for simulating OW in the pool, about the only part you can imitate is swimming continuously without stops at either end. You can do this by using the T at the end of the black line as a buoy and swimming around it without stopping or pushing off at the wall. Of course this may not work if your pool is crowded.
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9. Aug 30, 2007 7:08 PM in response to: jhopkins
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As for simulating OW in the pool, about the only part you can imitate is swimming continuously without stops at either end. You can do this by using the T at the end of the black line as a buoy and swimming around it without stopping or pushing off at the wall. Of course this may not work if your pool is crowded.

That, and swimming with your eyes closed or your head in a bag to simulate not being able to see!

[B]Most of what you'll encounter in OW (lack of visibility, cold temps, the disorientation of no black line to follow, learning to sight, different taste than pool water, weeds, fish, etc.) will primarily be a mental challenge, and not something that will really endanger you.[B]

Here's something funny that happened to me during the first few seconds of my swim on race day.... I was turning my head to breathe on the right side and the thought "what the heck is that on my arm?!?!" flashed across my brain...before I could get to panic mode, I realized it was my number marked on my arm and not some disgusting piece of weed stuck to me!!
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10. Aug 30, 2007 7:32 PM in response to: jhopkins
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by cocarrie:
That, and swimming with your eyes closed or your head in a bag to simulate not being able to see!
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Good idea! (The eyes closed part... the bag would probably add too much drag. )

The lack of visibility and the shock of cold water (mid to low 50's) was so disorienting to me on my first time out (not in a race, thank goodness), that I couldn't keep my face in the water. Every time I put my head down to swim, it popped right back up. The cold also made it hard to get my breathing under control. It was extra funny because most of my brain was totally jazzed to finally be swimming in OW, but a small and very powerful part of my brain was convinced it was a terrible, terrible idea. The next time, I went where the waves weren't so huge (first round was with a stiff ocean break), and the water was a little warmer... I eased into the water more slowly to get used to the temperature, and that swim went TONS better than my first outing.

Not trying to freak you out... just encouraging you to get out there before the race. With perseverance, you'll get through it either way... but you'll probably enjoy it a whole lot more if you have a chance to practice first.
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11. Aug 30, 2007 7:35 PM in response to: jhopkins
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by cocarrie:
I was turning my head to breathe on the right side and the thought "what the heck is that on my arm?!?!" flashed across my brain...before I could get to panic mode, I realized it was my number marked on my arm and not some disgusting piece of weed stuck to me!! <HR>

uhh...How were you looking at your own arm while swimming?? When your head turns to the right, your right hand should be at your hip.

I'm just sayin' is all.



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12. Aug 31, 2007 7:05 AM in response to: jhopkins
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Even if, by some chance, you don't get to practice in open water, don't worry. I did an ocean swim two years ago having not done ANY ocean swimming for years (I'd been to the ocean, but that was for just wading/getting cooled off, not going out past the breakers). After some initial anxiety getting through the breakers, I was fine. At any official swim event, you'll have a lot of people on kayaks, in boats, maybe also on surfboards who will be looking out for you. In my ocean swim, I met an "angel" on a surfboard who talked me from the end of the breakers to the first mark I had to round. She was wonderful! In all of the swims I've been in, the volunteers patrolling the water have been GREAT--really helpful and friendly.

Yes, if you can get a chance to swim in open water, go for it--but I have done open water swims with little or no open water practice in the weeks/months preceding, and I've been okay. It might have helped that a lot of my early learning to swim wasn't in a pool but in a bay. I think that makes me less prone to panic if I encounter things like seaweed, chop, etc. In lots of ways, it's more fun than a pool--more freeing, close to nature, often in beautiful surroundings (not that you can see them too well concentrating on swimming, but can always enjoy before/after), more interesting than just going back and forth.

Resist the urge to sprint out.from the start, because often that's what unsettles people--I've done that and have to stop and catch my breath and calm down. Once I did this, I was fine, but it's better if you don't worry about the people sprinting out ahead. Some of them may be going out too fast and not able to hold the pace they started with, and you'll likely catch them if you keep your own pace.

Good luck!