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19 Replies Last post: Sep 1, 2007 12:57 AM by Cashmason   1 2 Previous Next
Click to view rented mule's profile Pro 101 posts since
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Aug 30, 2007 9:43 PM

Want to do a triathlon but.....

I have doubts whether or not I can swim for a 1/2 mile or so. Biking and running would not be a problem but my buoyancy (sp?) is not very good. I can swim OK but I spend as much effort trying to stay afloat as I do going forward. Can I assume it is against triathlon rules to use any type of device which helps one stay afloat? I'm sure that must be one of the most ridiculous questions ever posed on here but it sure would ease my mind. The idea of doing a triathlon before I get much older intrigues me but I don't know if I could do it. I run under 20:00 for a 5k now at age 51 and can ride a bike pretty well....at least 2/3's of a triathlon would not be a problem. Comments please!

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Click to view tithers's profile Legend 1,406 posts since
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1. Aug 30, 2007 9:46 PM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
wetsuits keep legs up.

try total immersion...dvd...it will help keep you balanced
Click to view Cashmason's profile Legend 460 posts since
Oct 29, 2007
3. Aug 31, 2007 12:13 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
Mule, you have lots of options. Wetsuits are legal in most races unless the water is really warm. Wetsuits will help you float. Most triathletes wear wetsuits for flotation, not warmth.

You can also side stroke or breast stroke, you don't have to crawl.

You can look for reverse tri's, where the swim is last and usually in a pool and usually 400 meters or less.

Fatman, I expect that I will be at the Tinsel Tri again this year. I had a blast there last year.
Click to view runnerparris's profile Legend 365 posts since
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4. Aug 31, 2007 12:20 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
You are not alone...I do triathlons and am a terrible swimmer. I'm up to one mile now although it be very slow. Some people just have natural ability...others like me have natural inability.

I actually placed in my age group in a couple of the reverse order tris with short swims like the others mentioned...Tinsel Tri in Hemet last year being one of them.

I'll be there too!!!

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Click to view dragonsrouges's profile Legend 1,068 posts since
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5. Aug 31, 2007 5:20 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
If you think about it, everyone starts as a terrible swimmer, and some people have to work harder at one of the three sports, yours happens to be swimming, no big deal. You can get better at it though! It's a lot better to be bad a swimming because the potential is much greater, the better technique, the faster you go for the same effort. As for running, once you've maxed out your effort, your potential for improvement is not as great!

So I'd go for it, find a masters team and go for it! You'll likely do very well considering your strength on the bike and run.
Click to view Flyin Hawaiian's profile Legend 398 posts since
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6. Aug 31, 2007 6:52 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
Go for it dude! You'll do fine. Everyone has a weak event. Mine is swimming. My wetsuit is such a great floatation device that I can stop swimming, lay on my back in it and float forever.

Find a tri shorter than a half mile swim. And even if you cant find one, you will be surprised how short a half mile is. It just sounds long.

Laurie
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7. Aug 31, 2007 7:22 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
quote:<HR>Originally posted by dragonsrouges:
If you think about it, everyone starts as a terrible swimmer, and some people have to work harder at one of the three sports, yours happens to be swimming, no big deal. You can get better at it though! It's a lot better to be bad a swimming because the potential is much greater, the better technique, the faster you go for the same effort.<HR>

Very well said.

Mule: If you're not swimming consistently for, say, 2 to 4 times per week, do it. Read up on techinque (TI, the book is very good for a newbie), and practice what you read. Or get a coach. The coach doesn't need to be expensive, and it can only be for one or two lessons. That should be enough to find out what you're doing wrong, because the way you describe, you are doing something wrong.

There is absolutely zero reason you can't do it. Spend time around these parts and you'll realzie rather quickly just how many of us used to be in the very boat you paddle. I kid not. I wont go into it, but just know that I went from having innate fear of the water to the point I wouldn't even go in a backyard pool for most of my life, to Ironman. I commited to learning to swim, and then I did it. First toe in the water was in mid-July '05. First triathlon Aug '05. Second triathlon, a half Iron, in Nov '05. First Ironman Sept '06. Yes, you can do it. But you have to get in the water and either read up on body position and form and/or get someone to help you.
Click to view SpartyGirl's profile Legend 537 posts since
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9. Aug 31, 2007 8:34 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
Typically in a sprint you would wear tri shorts under your wetsuit (think cycling shorts with less padding).

Transition times really depend on whether or not you use cycling shoes on your bike (I have not graduated to that yet ). Some people can get in and out in a minute or so, others-like Thor and I tend to have a drink and a nap and take much longer than we would like
Click to view ussoccer's profile Legend 1,748 posts since
Dec 11, 2007
10. Aug 31, 2007 9:21 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
quote:<HR>Originally posted by rented mule:
1) In the transition period between swim/bike - do triathletes keep the wetsuit on for the remainder of the competition or change into running shorts? I've never even seen a wetsuit (except watching Ironman on tv) and can't remember exactly what happened during the transition from swim to bike etc.<HR>

Not sure I follow. In general, athletes will either where a wetsuit with their tri-shorts and top underneath, or a trisuit. Forget the trisuit for the sake of this answer, for most of the people who might wear that are Pro's. Come out of the water, strip your wetsuit off, and now hope on the bike with your tri-shorts and top. I always wear Tri-shorts underneath but often not the Tri-top. I wiggle into the top in Transition. For Ironman I in fact change both top and bottoms in the change tent. It's a long day, I'd rather not go out on the bike in wet shorts. Very few athletes wear typical running shorts.
quote:<HR>2) What is the average time for the transition from swim to bike and from bike to run?
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Scan race results of a local Sprint or Oly race. That'll give a good idication of where you should be.
quote:<HR>A little background.....I never swim but I can. The furtherst I've ever swam was 1/4 mile about 30 years ago in a college swimming class.<HR>

Forget your background. You can do this. No question. Just get in the water early and often.
quote:<HR>The idea of getting in a triathlon next year is exciting and I appreciate your encouragement. I have a lot to learn.<HR>

Just wait... this sport really is something special.

I had been a runner only for years. After having run roughly 20 marathons, I got into this amazing sport. It has honestly been the absolute best thing that has happened to me in my sports-active life. And it has made me a better person in my non-athletic life. It has even breathed a world of life into my running. You'll love it.
Click to view teacherjen's profile Legend 469 posts since
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11. Aug 31, 2007 9:23 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
Oh you absolutely take off the wetsuit-- as Sparty said, you wear what you're gonna bike and run in under it.

T1 is (for me) usually a bit longer, what with getting off the wetsuit and all. Also depends on how big the transition area is. Still, a <2 to 5+ minutes, depending. T2 is usually faster, less to do. <1 - 3+ minutes.
Click to view Abb94's profile Pro 179 posts since
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12. Aug 31, 2007 11:43 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
I hate to hijack this thread, but this is me! I can run and bike, but all I can do as far as swimming is the breaststroke (like the old lady kind where you don't put your face in the water). I swim 25 laps once a week the day after my long rides and the day before my long runs.

Will a DVD really show me how to do the crawl without feeling like I am drowning?

Abb
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13. Aug 31, 2007 11:59 AM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
About a year and a half ago I took an adult swim class b/c I had no clue how to do front crawl (all I could do was float, tread and backstroke). The class had all levels, including people who were afraid of deep water and those that were nervous about putting their face in the water.

I completed 2 triathlons this summer and during the second one I did front crawl the entire half mile

Go for it!
Click to view triandstopme044's profile Legend 1,454 posts since
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14. Aug 31, 2007 12:48 PM in response to: rented mule
Re: Want to do a triathlon but.....
quote:<HR>Originally posted by Abb94:

Will a DVD really show me how to do the crawl without feeling like I am drowning?

Abb
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It's more about your preferred mode of learning. If you're good at picking up information by watching a DVD, the Total Immersion DVD will definitely help. It's ideal for people who either don't have the money or interest in swim lessons. If your preferred mode of learning it to have someone teach you, by all means find a swim instructor. You won't need them every time you practice, so it doesn't need to be super expensive.

The Total Immersion DVD was a great help to me. It breaks the elements of the freestyle stroke down into drills that you practice separately. Then you gradually work up to the point that you're suddenly swimming freestyle, well-balanced, and breathing comfortably. There's also a book, but most people do better with the visuals. Or even the combo of the book and DVD.