It's odd that they don't just ban the aero bars outright from the uci events (our national federations will follow their lead anyway) and get it over with. The same riders would win and the times would be three minutes slower, who cares.

I rode saturday adhereing to the UCI rule for saddle placement, which in my case meant pounding the saddle back on the rails unti it couldn't go any more, and even then it was right on the bubble.

Most all of the top tirathletes would be way, way out of bounds, they would have to move the seat back many, many inches to get the nose 5 cm behind the bb center

the saddle position and elbow rest rules are to keep someone from developing a position that allowed the rider to lay forward on the bike, sort of like the "superman" position of Obre a few years back, basically the bike would be an upside down recumbent.

They want to avoid the proliferation of expensive equipment, which makes sense. If they would just disallow forward handlebar extensions then people could own one less bike because we all end up having to purchase a special frame just to make the aero position actually work properly.

The saddle rule puts you in an OK position, I'm riding a small cervelo for my height, so I have to put the saddle as far back as possible. I'm just going to leave it there.

One thin I noticed from looking at pictures is my position is still not so good. Look at this guy, he is a lot younger but has a really nice back:

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now look at me, too high and catching a lot of air:
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wasting all sorts of power:

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by jroden:
Look at this guy, he is a lot younger but has a really nice back:<HR>

It appears as though he is about to lose consciousness due to the pain in his neck from trying to look forward while not holding his head up.

Jon

The areo bar rule is suppose to be for safety. I don't really get it but it is one of the silly rules.

I actually like having my saddle back. It give you way more power on the climbs and if you aren't trans to running you can produce more power.

Seriosly though. No one has ever checked. I have raced some big (Nationals and some NRC) events and I have had my biked looked at once.

At most races they wouldn't check.

Jroden. You are riding a smaller frame so you seat should be relatively high to you handle bars. Why don't you just get a different stem or remove some spacers.

A good place for a look ergo stem.

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Is that your P2SL? I saw in another thread that you owned one. It's on my short list of desired tri bikes. At about $1K cheaper than the carbon version, it seems to have a lot of bang for the buck.

Also, that pic of "the other guy"... it looks like his aerobars are really way out there. Is that normal on a tri bike, vs clip-ons on a road bike?

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