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3chilipeppers

696 posts since
Nov 3, 2007

Nov 5, 2007 9:30 PM

No ipod enforcement

My HM in Feb. says no ipods. How do they enforce it? What if you run with one? I know many races are doing this, but I just run faster with my ipod!

Kelli

Crazy1004

1,039 posts since
Jan 29, 2006

1. Nov 5, 2007 9:36 PM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

yeah Ipods are a great way to snub other races. It is downright rude and dangerous.

Jeeze I thought roadies were stuck up.

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pcsronbo006

1,584 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

2. Nov 5, 2007 9:48 PM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

more and more the stupid people have done stupid things and more and more races are now actually enforcing the no-ipod rule. Usually a course marshall with DQ you and/or time penalty. Depends on the race though.

maybe they should run with scissors... no wait, that's a bad idea

tri_coach06

662 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

3. Nov 6, 2007 5:29 AM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

I see no problem with it. As long as you don't have the volume at max and your not doing 10 minute miles in the front coral.

I know all the bad things about running with music. The argument is as old as the hills. Point being if you want to hear music I really don't have a problem.

S

LookiLoo

265 posts since
Feb 3, 2006

4. Nov 6, 2007 8:15 AM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

Kelli - I used to run with headsets on all of my training runs (not races, though), and one day I just decided to try a long run without it. I think I had become so dependent on music that it kept me from really focusing on my breathing, pace, etc., but I really dreaded those longer miles without music.

Ever since I left my MP3 player home that one day, I have yet to use them. It really makes such a huge difference, and I now have no desire to run with music. I didn't realize how meditative running could actually become and now I'm a little pi$$ed I waited so long to give it up! I still use it when I'm on the trainer as that is just mind-numbing, but never when I'm running. I love the silence now!

DawnT071

713 posts since
Oct 31, 2006

5. Nov 6, 2007 8:41 AM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

You can probably get away with it, but I would suggest you leave it at home. I run with music all the time in training, but I don't use it in races. It's against the rules and I think we should follow those rules. Simple as that.

kristine25

632 posts since
Aug 17, 2007

6. Nov 6, 2007 8:49 AM

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I am right there with you Kelli. The arguement about iPod's are as old as iPods are but if you pay attention to the world around you while also listening to music then who cares?? We listen to music while we drive, does that make us bad drivers?? People who are deaf run, does that mean they shouldn't be in races??

I ALWAYS listen to music when I run, and have done so in ALL my run races, except my last 10K which had a huge time goal for me and I really wanted to concnetrate on where I was at in this race and I was shocked to realize I didn't miss it so I won't use it for my upcoming HM but honestly, I can't even imagine a solo training run without one.

prosim25019

34 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

7. Nov 6, 2007 8:57 AM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

I know one race that enforced the no headphones rule, the Applefest HalfMarathon in New Hampshire...they even had a DQ list one the results page...
http://www.coolrunning.com/results/07/nh/Oct6_Applef_set1.shtml[/URL" target="_blank">

LeftRightRepeat

1,618 posts since
Aug 16, 2007

8. Nov 6, 2007 9:10 AM

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Without arguing the merit of rules about wearing headphones during running... I think the rules should be enforced. Otherwise, it's unfair to those who follow the rules and, perhaps, sacrifice some performance (or at least think they do) to comply.

If you break the rules, you're cheating and you should be disqualified.

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hobey014

1,056 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

9. Nov 6, 2007 11:14 AM

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No argument for or against. I train with music but have never raced with it. I'm with everyone who says follow the rules but it doesn't bother me either way.

Grandma's Marathon went through all the start corrals last summer and confiscated iPods. They mailed them back to the owners at the owner's expense.

jroden

1,683 posts since
Dec 11, 2007

10. Nov 6, 2007 11:16 AM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

Athletes need to understand the rules that govern their sport and follow the special prohibitions that promoters may put in place for an event. Part of the athlete's lifestyle is adhering to this fairly minimal standard of conduct.

One can't have it both ways, if the race organization is to provide all finishers with traffic control, water, a funtioning finish line (remember, 5 hour marathons with closed courses are a fairly new invention) then all athletes, including back of the packers need to hold up their end of the bargain.

NHSenior

386 posts since
Nov 23, 2007

11. Nov 6, 2007 11:27 AM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by hobey:
Grandma's Marathon went through all the start corrals last summer and confiscated iPods. They mailed them back to the owners at the owner's expense.<HR>

I commend Grandma's for doing that, but why should the race management have to endure going through that process.

I would have accidentally put them where the trash detail would have thrown them out.

Dear runner,

Gee, we're sorry but the only thing we can think of is that the trash guys threw out your device by mistake.

Sorry, for the irony of this note.

regards from the guys that set the rules.

triandstopme044

1,454 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

12. Nov 6, 2007 11:28 AM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

In the tri I was volunteer ref for, we were definitely marking down runners with headsets. I'd have to check the results to see if they were DQ'd or merely had a time penalty, but they were definitely penalized. (Personally, I think the most effective way to penalize folks for this would be to confiscate the MP3 players like nail clippers at the airport... like they did at Grandma's, but without returning them.

With all your hard training, I can't imagine you'd ever break the rules by cutting the course to get a faster time. And yet, you're clearly saying you'd like to break the rules for a faster time if only you won't get caught.

LeftRightRepeat

1,618 posts since
Aug 16, 2007

13. Dec 25, 2007 6:18 PM

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Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by jroden:
Athletes need to understand the rules that govern their sport and follow the special prohibitions that promoters may put in place for an event.<HR>

Just to clarify, it's not the promoters. The USATF, the sanctioning body for most running races in the US, this year revised rule 144.3(b) to read: "The visible possession or use by athletes of video or audio cassette recorders or players, TV's, CD or DVD players, radio transmitters or receivers, mobile phones, computers, or any similar devices in the competition area shall not be permitted."

USAT's rules 5.8 (bike) and 6.3 (run) are similar: "Any participants who any time uses, wears or carries a headset, radio, headphones, personal audio device, or any other item described in Section 3.4(i) shall be assessed a variable time penalty."

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biketm

454 posts since
Jul 9, 2007

14. Nov 6, 2007 11:30 AM

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by LookiLoo:
[b]Kelli - I used to run with headsets on all of my training runs (not races, though), and one day I just decided to try a long run without it. I think I had become so dependent on music that it kept me from really focusing on my breathing, pace, etc., but I really dreaded those longer miles without music.

Ever since I left my MP3 player home that one day, I have yet to use them. It really makes such a huge difference, and I now have no desire to run with music. I didn't realize how meditative running could actually become and now I'm a little pi$$ed I waited so long to give it up! I still use it when I'm on the trainer as that is just mind-numbing, but never when I'm running. I love the silence now![/b]<HR>

I could tell the exact same story....I love running sooooo much more without the distracting music.

Tim

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