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Crazy1004

1,039 posts since
Jan 29, 2006

45. Nov 6, 2007 5:20 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

I'm supprised that no one has mentioned the snob factor. It is just rude to race with headphones. It basically says, "Hey I am in my own little world and don't give a dam if you racing or not." It is just rude. As many of you know I am a pretty good bike racer and if anyone showed up in the middle of the bike race with an Ipod, there would be no mercy. Yeah, sometime we have headphones to communicate intra-team but there is not noise all of the time.

Yes, I have gotten hurt when someone's earbuds fell out in the start of my a running race and got wrapped around my arm.

Ultimately if it is against the rules it is cheating. It is no different than PED

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Cashmason

460 posts since
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46. Nov 6, 2007 6:33 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

Guys we are all friends here.

I don't care what you listen or don't listen to as you race.

All I want to see is you happy and healthy at the finish line, and if you are in my age group, that you finish behind me.

mbannon

1,814 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

47. Nov 6, 2007 6:52 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by Cashmason:
Guys we are all friends here.
<HR>

No. You're wrong. You're wrong, you're stupid, you're ugly, and you ain't got no iiiiiice creaaaam!!! 'Cuz your daddy was a alcohoooolic!!

tri_coach06

662 posts since
Aug 14, 2007

48. Nov 6, 2007 7:05 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by mbannon:
[b]
Originally posted by Cashmason:
Guys we are all friends here.
<HR>

No. You're wrong. You're wrong, you're stupid, you're ugly, and you ain't got no iiiiiice creaaaam!!! 'Cuz your daddy was a alcohoooolic!!

[/B]

What he said!

ORBrewDad

113 posts since
Apr 17, 2006

49. Nov 6, 2007 7:42 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Can't people just run the race and not worry about what everybody else is doing? Next time I see the girl in shorts that only cover half her arse and 8 guys running behind her I'm gonna think she should be DQ'ed for cheating. She is keeping them behind her.
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Hey I was DRAFTING!!! It's a perfectly legitimate racing strategy.

...and once Hobey reads this, I'm not getting any for a month.

adam6

205 posts since
Nov 21, 2007

50. Nov 6, 2007 8:58 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

Not trying to be a jerk here, but if it is against the rules of the race then it should not matter how they enforce it because you have no business doing it. If you don't like the rules of the race, then it is probably in your best interest to find another race.

Drafting is against the rules, but what if I don't get caught..is it okay then?

mbannon

1,814 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

51. Nov 6, 2007 9:25 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by ORBrewDad:

...and once Hobey reads this, I'm not getting any for a month. <HR>

Not with that emoticon in there, you're not.

kristine25

632 posts since
Aug 17, 2007

52. Dec 25, 2007 6:18 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by nmironman:
Not trying to be a jerk here, but if it is against the rules of the race then it should not matter how they enforce it because you have no business doing it. If you don't like the rules of the race, then it is probably in your best interest to find another race.

Drafting is against the rules, but what if I don't get caught..is it okay then?<HR>

I think it's totally appropriate to question authority. And us pro headphone wearers have every right to question why it's so important that we not use them so we can argue the other side. However, if what people are saying here and it's the insurance companies making the rules, than these arguements need to be sent to the insurance companies, not necessarilly the RD.

And why is it that those who are anti-headphones think we are all jerks and shouldn't be able to race when us pro-headphones think it's fine for you to race without them? I have been pushed and shoved by people not wearing headphones because they are in their own zone (and I always start in a race where I am suppose to start). I have had water cups thrown at me by people not wearing headphones, and I have had cars enter a closed course because a volunteer wasn't paying attention. Racing is a semi dangerous sport in and of itself, headphones or not.

http://This message has been edited by kristine25 (edited Nov-06-2007).

hobey014

1,056 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

53. Nov 6, 2007 10:16 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by mbannon:
Not with that emoticon in there, you're not.<HR>

I finally get the real reason why the pros complain about the small draft zone....too many distractions.

tdiana

15 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

54. Dec 25, 2007 6:18 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by kristine25:
I think it's totally appropriate to question authority. And us pro headphone wearers have every right to question why it's so important that we not use them so we can argue the other side. However, if what people are saying here and it's the insurance companies making the rules, than these arguements need to be sent to the insurance companies, not necessarilly the RD.

And why is it that those who are anti-headphones think we are all jerks and shouldn't be able to race when us pro-headphones think it's fine for you to race without them? I have been pushed and shoved by people not wearing headphones because they are in their own zone (and I always start in a race where I am suppose to start). I have had water cups thrown at me by people not wearing headphones, and I have had cars enter a closed course because a volunteer wasn't paying attention. Racing is a semi dangerous sport in and of itself, headphones or not.

http://This message has been edited by kristine25 (edited Nov-06-2007).<HR>

Amen! I have never had an issue with someone wearing headphones. I've had lots of issues with people not wearing headphones. They should ban people not wearing headphones!

ORBrewDad

113 posts since
Apr 17, 2006

55. Dec 25, 2007 6:18 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by kristine25:
I think it's totally appropriate to question authority. And us pro headphone wearers have every right to question why it's so important that we not use them so we can argue the other side. However, if what people are saying here and it's the insurance companies making the rules, than these arguements need to be sent to the insurance companies, not necessarilly the RD.

And why is it that those who are anti-headphones think we are all jerks and shouldn't be able to race when us pro-headphones think it's fine for you to race without them? I have been pushed and shoved by people not wearing headphones because they are in their own zone (and I always start in a race where I am suppose to start). I have had water cups thrown at me by people not wearing headphones, and I have had cars enter a closed course because a volunteer wasn't paying attention. Racing is a semi dangerous sport in and of itself, headphones or not.

http://This message has been edited by kristine25 (edited Nov-06-2007).<HR>

You have every right to question authority. The RD has every right to DQ or penalize you for not following the rules of the race. If you'd like to see the rules changed, then work with USATF to change the policy, but don't think that you can just ignore any rule that you don't like. In the end, it is every competitor's decision to make, but you can't complain when there are consequences for not following the rules.

Would you wear a wetsuit in a race that wasn't wetsuit legal just because you'd rather be more bouyant?

mbannon

1,814 posts since
Dec 14, 2007

56. Nov 6, 2007 10:36 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

quote:<HR>Originally posted by tdiana:
Amen! I have never had an issue with someone wearing headphones. I've had lots of issues with people not wearing headphones. They should ban people not wearing headphones!<HR>

They should ban people who want to ban people who don't wear headphones! That's it, no soup for you!!

adam6

205 posts since
Nov 21, 2007

57. Nov 6, 2007 10:51 PM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

I am not "anti-headphone" nor have I ever had any trouble with people using them. Questioning authority is your right, but rules are rules, think of entering a race as being a guest in somebodies house, if they asked you to take your shoes off before you walk on the carpet would you do it? or would you argue with them? Usually when registering for a race, there are a very clear set of rules available to all interested in signing up. some races have headphone rules, others don't. if it is such a big deal, then select races that allow headphones, most marathons and road races do while most triathlons do not. A big reason is insurance as mentioned before. Another reason is that it is downright dangerous and taboo in any circle of real cyclists to use headphones while cycling, why? because you can't hear traffic. Rather than letting people use them on the run, but not the bike, they have banned them from most tri's.

If you do not want to play by the rules it is your right and privaledge to not play.

3chilipeppers

696 posts since
Nov 3, 2007

58. Nov 7, 2007 12:31 AM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

O.K. I didn't mean to start a debate. I wasn't implying that I was going to break the rules. I'm not planning to wear my ipod in the race. I just wish I could. I can see how it COULD pose a safety issue, but my friend and I run with our ipods and talk to each other the whole time, so we obviously don't have them loud at all. My friend even has a hearing impairment and doesn't wear her hearing aides, and she can hear me talking to her over her ipod! I don't always train with my ipod either, but when I don't feel like running, it helps motivate me. I ran my long run last week with no ipod, and it was fine. I just think for such a long race, it would be nice to have the option to run with some music. Some prefer it, some don't. That's your own preference. I run with and without depending on my mood, my route, the weather, etc... The race is here in Austin, the live music capital of the world, so they have performers every mile along the race, so it is interesting to say the least.

I was mainly asking because USAT prohibits ipods as well, but I've seen people on the run portion wearing them now and then. So, I just didn't know how they enforce the rules or IF they do or if it varies by race, etc... Now I see that it just varies.

Kelli

3chilipeppers

696 posts since
Nov 3, 2007

59. Nov 7, 2007 12:47 AM

in response to: 3chilipeppers

Re: No ipod enforcement

Oh, and those of you that think it is "obvious" why they ban them, well a lot of things are obvious, such as cell phones causing more car accidents, but they are not outlawed while driving (at least not in my state). It is obvious that you should wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle, but you don't have to in Texas. There are a lot of more obvious and serious safety issues in this world that are still legal! I think ipods while running a race are the least of our worries. I can understand the rule and follow the rule, but it doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I don't rely on my ipod for running, but I feel it is my right to run with an ipod if I want to as long as I'm not interfering with other runners. I keep the volume low and am VERY alert to my surroundings while running, but I also know the rules are not made for the people doing the right thing. Last year, I ran with my ipod (it wasn't prohibited last year), but it was off for half the race so I could enjoy some of the race without it. I just like having the option.

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